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So... anybody here still think Ron will eventually lead us to a Super Bowl?

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Did the Seahawks win the Superbowl because they had better coaching than the Broncos? No. Coaching is important, but talent comes first.

I think that he could with more talent, but nobody could lead this team to a Superbowl without legitimate tackles, competent secondary and Hardy.

Bruce Arians marched in to SEA and beat them there. The 49ers almost had them beat until Kaep threw that INT.

Again look at our game on Sunday. We should have beaten them soundly with the way we were moving the ball. Coaching comes first otherwise you'll have all the talent in the world and not be able to use it.

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Ron is a good coach.

 

That's the problem. His general coaching abilities really aren't in question.

 

It's whether or not he is ever going to be a great head coach. Some guys just make great coordinators. I really hope Ron works out here. But if that is going to happen, he needs to change, and stick with it. Stop reverting back to this play not to lose mentality when things get tough.

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How he responds and how well the team is prepared Thursday will tell us all we need to know.

 

If we come out and fall flat on our faces again at home with the stakes where they are, I think you generally have your answer.

 

Ron Rivera's Carolina coaching career has absolutely nothing to do with this one game. This season may depend on the game in the eyes of a lot of Huddlers but in reality this team does not have the talent to be a playoff team this year. The fact that we aren't doing worse than we are right now is credit to Rivera. Rivera's not the problem and all this talk about "losing the locker room" is bullshit. If we had the same players as last year we'd have a shot at the Super Bowl this year. Gettleman didn't keep everybody and we weren't able to bring in many quality replacements. I'm not saying to blame Gettleman because the NFL Salary Cap is a damn fuging hard thing to understand and work. We couldn't pay guys like Mitchell and Captain what they ended up getting on the open market. Nobody ever could've foreseen the Hardy situation. With him back our team would instantly be upgraded hugely. With him or his salary back next season and some other contracts off the books we'll have room to improve. Now we won't make the playoffs this year (if we do it'll be a miracle and we should fuging bow down to Ron Rivera and Dave Gettleman), but we are set up to succeed in the long run. Many huddlers are too stupid to look at the big picture and panic at any losing record or bad play. Rivera can't help that he has 4 UDFAs starting on the o-line, that Hardy's out or that key guys have been injured.

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Ron Rivera's Carolina coaching career has absolutely nothing to do with this one game. This season may depend on the game in the eyes of a lot of Huddlers but in reality this team does not have the talent to be a playoff team this year. The fact that we aren't doing worse than we are right now is credit to Rivera. Rivera's not the problem and all this talk about "losing the locker room" is bullshit. If we had the same players as last year we'd have a shot at the Super Bowl this year. Gettleman didn't keep everybody and we weren't able to bring in many quality replacements. I'm not saying to blame Gettleman because the NFL Salary Cap is a damn fuging hard thing to understand and work. We couldn't pay guys like Mitchell and Captain what they ended up getting on the open market. Nobody ever could've foreseen the Hardy situation. With him back our team would instantly be upgraded hugely. With him or his salary back next season and some other contracts off the books we'll have room to improve. Now we won't make the playoffs this year (if we do it'll be a miracle and we should fuging bow down to Ron Rivera and Dave Gettleman), but we are set up to succeed in the long run. Many huddlers are too stupid to look at the big picture and panic at any losing record or bad play. Rivera can't help that he has 4 UDFAs starting on the o-line, that Hardy's out or that key guys have been injured.

 

No, the fact we aren't doing worse than we are right now is because the rest of the division is crumbling around us.

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No, the fact we aren't doing worse than we are right now is because the rest of the division is crumbling around us.

 

What does that have to with anything so far this year? We've only played one divisional game and that was week 1 with our backup QB.

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What does that have to with anything so far this year? We've only played one divisional game and that was week 1 with our backup QB.

 

The fact that we've managed to back into the division lead at this point  is pure luck if anything. What happens from this point forward is ultimately up to the team and coaches. As I talked about in the post above, if Rivera continues to play not to lose, we are in for a long 8 weeks.

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The fact that we've managed to back into the division lead at this point  is pure luck if anything. What happens from this point forward is ultimately up to the team and coaches. As I talked about in the post above, if Rivera continues to play not to lose, we are in for a long 8 weeks.

 

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No, the fact we aren't doing worse than we are right now is because the rest of the division is crumbling around us.

 

I'm not talking about where we're ranked in the division, I'm talking about our record. With our talent I'm shocked we aren't 1-7 or 2-6 right now. To come out of the toughest stretch of our schedule and be 3-4-1 is not horrible.

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I'm not talking about where we're ranked in the division, I'm talking about our record. With our talent I'm shocked we aren't 1-7 or 2-6 right now. To come out of the toughest stretch of our schedule and be 3-4-1 is not horrible.

 

If you can hang your hat on 3-4-1 with 3 blowout losses in that span then hey good for you man.

 

I'm damn sure not. We are much better than that bullshit.

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