Cover 2 will not work with this Defense

[RazzleDazzle]

The cover 2 won't work for us for one simple reason...the way you beat a cover 2 is to run out of it...if we can stop the run the cover 2 will do no good. I know a little something. :smilewinkgrin:

Alright, since it's just the first preseason game I'm not to worried. We are solid in every position except for DT on defense. No big deal, we'll find someone to fill in for Kemo. Other than that every other position is solid, we have one hole to fill and I imagine we will take care of it before the season starts. Calm down guys.

[RazzleDazzle]

Detroit went 4-0 in last years preseason...apparently they mean nothing...Cat fans need to just calm down a little.

Yep

[monstercat]

For the 1,000th time. Trgo had one of the thickest, most complicated defensive play books in the NFL. Just because they didn't run all out blitzes as often as a lot of fans wanted, does not mean they ran vanilla defenses.

[CRA]

For the 1,000th time. Trgo had one of the thickest, most complicated defensive play books in the NFL. Just because they didn't run all out blitzes as often as a lot of fans wanted, does not mean they ran vanilla defenses.

how do you know Trgo had one of the most complicated playbooks? You can go around the league and the better defenses (consistantly better ones) obviously run much more complicated defenses than Trgo ever did here.

[carolinarolls]

Mike's playbooks were big cuz he draws really big letters

[frash.exe]

Mike's playbooks were big cuz he draws really big letters

in crayons

[Brandon]

how do you know Trgo had one of the most complicated playbooks? You can go around the league and the better defenses (consistantly better ones) obviously run much more complicated defenses than Trgo ever did here.

No. Most teams with great defenses have very simple play calling, that's part of why they're good. If you over complicate things you slow players down. The Steelers, for example, only require their players to do one thing at a time (much like ours does now) rather than having to make reads and then react based on those reads.

It has also been brought up tons of times two years ago, last year and this offseason as to how complex and overloaded the playbooks were.

[howard johnson]

The OP brings up good points.

How are the Panthers going to contain the Bills and their no-huddle attack with the Cover Who?

The Bills have a lethal passing attack now.

Remember this!

[monstercat]

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QUOTE=Brandon;2134897]No. Most teams with great defenses have very simple play calling, that's part of why they're good. If you over complicate things you slow players down. The Steelers, for example, only require their players to do one thing at a time (much like ours does now) rather than having to make reads and then react based on those reads.

It has also been brought up tons of times two years ago, last year and this offseason as to how complex and overloaded the playbooks were.[]QUOTE]

Exactly. A perfect example is when Chris Harris got here, he thought the Panthers defense was gonna be more like the Bears defense, but then he found out that he had a lot more to learn here. Every hard core Panthers fan should know this stuff. Hell, just learning all those zone blitzes had to be a bitch for the front 7, because any one of the D-linemen could end up dropping back in coverage...I even saw Kemo do it a couple of times.

Trgo's schemes were not vanilla or simple. That's a fact.

[CRA]

No. Most teams with great defenses have very simple play calling, that's part of why they're good. If you over complicate things you slow players down. The Steelers, for example, only require their players to do one thing at a time (much like ours does now) rather than having to make reads and then react based on those reads.

It has also been brought up tons of times two years ago, last year and this offseason as to how complex and overloaded the playbooks were.

actually the only players who commented on how complicated it was....was a rookie thrust into a starting job and a guy who was mainly a backup prior to arriving in Carolina.

[Mesmer]

Trgo's schemes were not vanilla or simple. That's a fact.

Very true.. they were just weren't very good.

As far as scheming goes, the pre-season is the worst example. There's no scheming going on. We will run the super vanilla defense all preseason. Maybe a little something in game 3, but I doubt it.

Wait til the regular season before we start judging playcalling

[monstercat]

actually the only players who commented on how complicated it was....was a rookie thrust into a starting job and a guy who was mainly a backup prior to arriving in Carolina.

You do know that the back ups have to learn the exact same plays as the starters, right?

BTW, Diggs also commented on how much thicker the defensive playbook was when he first got here.

[CRA]

You do know that the back ups have to learn the exact same plays as the starters, right?

BTW, Diggs also commented on how much thicker the defensive playbook was when he first got here.

ok, but the main two most supporters of the "too tough" playbook use Beason's rookie season and Harris as there main points. Beason was a rookie thrust into the MLB role....and Harris was a backup S who might simply just struggle in general learning assignments. I mean the dude has all the physical tools to be much better in coverage than he actually is. I just think some guys are asked to focus on attacking......in Carolina they are asked to try to prevent. That just sucks in general imo if you are a player.

[Brandon]

actually the only players who commented on how complicated it was....was a rookie thrust into a starting job and a guy who was mainly a backup prior to arriving in Carolina.

Yeah the people LEADING THE DEFENSE. You really need to learn play recognition and understanding how our schemes really work before commenting on them.