Would you want Jim Harbaugh if Panthers continue to suck?

[Proudiddy]

Lol yes but that is a laughable idea...

JR and Jim in a meeting together lol... let alone him hiring him and coexisiting. Also, don't forget, "Mr.Richardson, have you talked to Jim Harbaugh?"

"Who is that? I'm sure he's a nice feller."

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[FearTheCats]

If the Panthers fire Rivera, bring in BILL COWHER. 

 

Why? 

 

Because that's the kind of well-respected coach that you need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt to many, myself included, whether or not Cam is the guy or the problem. I said it when Rivera was on the hot seat, and it's still the case. 

 

If Cam Newton doesn't ascend under a coach like Cowher, many will accept that he never will.

 

If you bring in another weak, experimental guy, many people, myself included, aren't going to feel like it's Cam's fault instead of the coach just being clueless. Same place we are now, which is why Rivera should've been gone two years ago. We'd know about Cam for sure by now.  

 

What makes you think Cowher would be willing to take the job?

[ThinkAboutIt]

What makes you think Cowher would be willing to take the job?

 

I never said he would or wouldn't. It's all hypothetical, meaning they should make him an offer. If he turns it down, then you move on.

[cbully]

Coaches realize they are failing.  They realize there OL talent is a joke and there secondary talent is a joke vs. the rest of the league.

 

Coaches coach.  GM supplies the bodies.   Emphasis however is put on Ron.  Unfair.  Emphasis should go on Gettlemen b/c what we suffer from is a comical lack of talent on the OL and secondary.  Both worse than last year (and we were weak then too and overachieved).

 

When the lack of talent is so great at key spots.  Coaching won't fix the issue.  Not a coaching issue.  Rivera is trying to make lemonade with lemons.  You are acting as if he wanted the lemons.

for the most part I can agree with your statement however I think RR does like the lemons. There is no excuse or no one to blame when it comes to play calling but the one who calls it or the one above him who allow. otherwise what is RR's job on gameday? RR gets no pass in any of this and surely "He" has made many suspect calls and ridiculous conservative calls. simply swapping a head coach could change some things, but everyone knows we need a OC more. I'm not sold on Gettleman hired Shula without RR's influence. It was cheap and part of the easy fire package as a whole...

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/ron-rivera-shula-hire-was-to-ensure-continuity/

 

not saying Gettleman gets a pass either because he can indeed make changes but you know as well as any that would require a staff removal, thus RR and his boys go packing. meanwhile 3-4-1

[Mr. Scot]

for the most part I can agree with your statement however I think RR does like the lemons. There is no excuse or no one to blame when it comes to play calling but the one who calls it or the one above him who allow. otherwise what is RR's job on gameday? RR gets no pass in any of this and surely "He" has made many suspect calls and ridiculous conservative calls. simply swapping a head coach could change some things, but everyone knows we need a OC more. I'm not sold on Gettleman hired Shula without RR's influence. It was cheap and part of the easy fire package as a whole...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/ron-rivera-shula-hire-was-to-ensure-continuity/

not saying Gettleman gets a pass either because he can indeed make changes but you know as well as any that would require a staff removal, thus RR and his boys go packing. meanwhile 3-4-1

Outside of a very few unique situations (Dick LeBeau, for example) head coaches are pretty much always given complete control over the hiring (and firing) of their coaching staff. GMs do little more than rubber stamp the coach's decisions.

[Pox 08]

Yes.     JIm H.  gets the most out of his players and he is still driven by the fact that he has not won a SB yet..

 

 

[Black]

Good question.  

 

I would lean towards yes. 

[Semaj]

It will never happen. Things that us Panther fans want to happen, don't usually happen. It will be another conservative DC. I will be surprised if it happened or we ended up with a offensive genius for head coach.

[Captain Obvious]

sure bring him in, or don't. Not going to expend any more thought than that on this.

[cookinbrak]

I got a question:  If Harbaugh can't get his team over the hump with all that talent, what makes you think that he is going to get this team over the hump with mostly marginal to back-up talent?  

 

Hell, any coach worth his salt should be able to be successful with the hand that he was given.

 

Rivera had a few more high draft picks than Harbaugh did.

 

If we had hired Harbaugh and he had the #1 pick, Luck would have been our QB. The entire team would look different.

[top dawg]

Rivera had a few more high draft picks than Harbaugh did.

 

If we had hired Harbaugh and he had the #1 pick, Luck would have been our QB. The entire team would look different.

 

I don't have any major problems with our high draft picks (rounds 1 &2).  Luck was not destined to be a Panther. It just wasn't in the cards, Harbaugh or not.  Furthermore put Luck on this team. and we probably aren't any better. 

[SOJA]

still no link to Rivera's losing the locker room

[cbully]

Outside of a very few unique situations (Dick LeBeau, for example) head coaches are pretty much always given complete control over the hiring (and firing) of their coaching staff. GMs do little more than rubber stamp the coach's decisions.

exactly! that's what I was trying to tell the other guy. 

[shelbypanther]

Senile JR doesn't know who he is, so it is a moot point.