That's it, I'm making it official

[CamMoon]

I hate this fanbase bruh

[EcoFina]

This stuff just cracks me up.

Give Cam Manning's Oline and you'd be on the goat band wagon no doubt.

 

But Manning is "cerebral", when Manning throws ducks "it happens to every QB".

[Pox 08]

tl;dr.    LOL

[beastson]

People really think if we had another QB he'll do something behind this oline, behind 3rd string WR's, and unhealthy RB's? The first game of the season clouded people judgement with DA. And you see how Tampa turned out to be worst than us

[AceBoogie]

Andrew Luck- Reggie Wayne, TY Hilton, Hakeem Nicks, Trent Richardson, Coby Fleener

Colin Kaepernick-Michael Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Anquan Boldin, Stevie Johnson

Andy Dalton- Aj Green, Jermaine Gresham, Tyler Eifert, Sanu, Bernard

Russell Wilson doesn't have a lot of talent at the WR position but he has a legit running game, and legit OC.

But go ahead and be mad at Cam for not always being able to make lemonade out of the Lemons he had.

[Ezrider1423]

He lost me with "David Shaw"

[MCC]

So dumb. Didn't read.

[EcoFina]

[Rags]

You don't trade away a very good QB and hoppe for the best.

 

This thread is thread is dumb and you should feel bad for making it bruh.

[Evodion]

Typical chicken littles.

[UpstatePanther]

"I'm officially on the trade Newton bandwagon."... da fuq?

[Matthias]

This stuff just cracks me up.

Give Cam Manning's Oline and you'd be on the goat band wagon no doubt.

 

We all agree Cam doesn't have an O-line.  However that shouldn't stop him from mastering the fundamentals like stepping up in the pocket, getting rid of the ball after three seconds on average, etc.  If you're Newton, you have to demand these things of your offense.  Demand the coaching staff stop shuffling your already crappy O-line. (That's the first time I ever seen such a thing done)  You have to kill all these design runs, and throw to your best weapons often.  We came away with three field goals today, after being in the redzone probably more than five times.  Unbelievable, I don't care what your O-line looks like.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

I'm officially on the trade Newton bandwagon.  Sometimes you have to make the hard decisions, but I just don't see him having any Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady success, year in and out.  At best he will have McNabb, Culpepper, Jeff Garcia success.  We would pretty much have to build a super team around him to have great success.  We would have to build a "2000 Raven's" defense, give him super receivers and a super O-line before we are contenders every year.  Well, if I got to do all that, I'm sure I would be contenders with any game manager QB behind the line.  

 

With this coaching staff on board, Cam will never do anything.  I'm starting to wonder if Cam even wants to be a consistent passer, or does he simply want to run for a hundred yards every game.  I'm tired of it all.  I said it before, the pocket passer still rule in this league, and that isn't about to change.  It's possible when you have an athletic QB, management tends to not put pieces around you to help you out.  They don't get you a good LT.  They don't give you 5 receiver sets and short quick routes.   I mean come on, where are our 5 receiver sets?  Where are our quick, short routes?  Also, flip is up with our screen game, having Cam turn around a couple of times before dropping the ball off to Stew?  This offense pretty much look like Chud 2.0 with all these read options, which cost us points by the way on that fumble near the goal line.  I'm surprise that doesn't happen more with that play around the league.  However in our case, I wish it did happen more.  So we can put that play in the garbage right where it belongs.  

 

All in all, in my opinion, we should trade Newton now (not now actually right now, but in the offseason).  That is our best option, because I don't see him ever learning things like consistently stepping up in the pocket.  I said we should have let Hardy walk in the offseason, and look at how that cost us.  We are most likely not going to resign him, so it has turned out to be a big waste of money.  In this case, we need to trade Newton, and get the most we can for him.  The only way I would be on board with Newton long term, is if we hired a "Pro-offensive genius" as OC or HC.  Somebody that will instantly drop all the gimmicks, and tell Cam to only run as an absolute last option.  I wouldn't be too mad if he threw in a "COUPLE" of read options or designed runs, but that is the absolute MAX each game.  Give me a retired Manning at HC, maybe a David Shaw, maybe.  Shoot, Jim Harbaugh will be a free agent soon, I would throw all my money at him. (Though I would be sad to see the 4-3 defense go.  I'm a 4-3 baby, but I will say if he could build a 3-4 with players similar to the 49ers, I won't complain one bit)

[Growl]

I'm not going to read that because it's a Matthias post and I'm fairly confident I'd be wasting my time.