Why so many taboo subjects?

[CelibatePimp]

nah he said cam was the main reason we lost

 

see my avatar for the truth on that topic

 

He said today, not any other day but today. I agree with him to a degree that Cam did not play well enough for us to win today.

[heel31ok]

nah he said cam was the main reason we lost

 

see my avatar for the truth on that topic

 

yes he said "the main reason." which is ridiculous.

 

[TheMaulClaw]

We don't control the trenches, when we do, we win.  And that goes for both sides of the ball.

 

The DLine finally showed up today and were more aggressive.  OLine held their own for a little while, especially since they are all scrub types except kalil

 

Good point.  Which is why being able to upgrade the trenches is more important.

[KendrickPanther]

Actually he has a point. Our oline did ok. We ran the ball well but the passing game was a mess. It felt like we couldn't call an 8 yards passing play. It was either a screen or something deep. We can't expect our guys to block for more than 2 seconds. We can blame them or we can put them in position to succeed.

 

It would have taken a miracle for us to drive 80 yards with 2 timeouts and 42 seconds. We should have never allowed it to come to that.

[CelibatePimp]

You two are more meant to be than Rivera and Shula

 

I'm done with you. You add nothing to any Cam discussion and I am not interested in reading your vacuous quips.

[rmoneyg35]

Fact cam gave up a interception and fumble, and almost threw another interception. You can blame it on play calling but isn't Newton responsible for calling audibles?

Cam always tries to do to much, instead of throwing the ball away or taking a sack he has to try to run for more yards which sometimes is successful but a lot of times ends up with more negative yards or turnovers.

He has also threw atleast one interception in the past four or five games.

[Brooklyn Bully]

The OP is right about one thing. You can't say anything critical of Cam here. Nothing is ever Cam's fault. 

[WhoAmI?]

lol this guy thinks our defense was good Cam's first two seasons.

 

buddy your extra chromosome is showing. our first two years our defense lost us game after game in the final quarter. it happened every single week. we had to blow out the other team to win.

 

it's ezzzzz to tell who's actually been watching games.

 

When did I ever say our defense was good duringCam's first two seasons? I clearly asked what has Cam done WITHOUT an elite defense? Luck has had a pretty bad defense his first two years, Peyton has never had an elite defense, Rodgers has never had an elite defense, Brees has never had an elite defense. What am I getting at here? That paying HUGE money to a QB that can't win without a very good defense is idiotic and Cam has proven he cannot win without a top 5 defense.

[mc52beast]

Only saw the 4th qtr but from what i saw of Cam he was being rushed almost constantly. He made a helluva play to escape that sack in the endzone and then connect with Benji on that long throw... 

 

If you put Cam on any team with a decent line he would be unstoppable, Gettleman said we had the answer to our o-line issues on the roster, guess he was wrong.

[Killa Cam 69]

What line were you watching ?

[mcdougal]

the defense earned their pay today and are no more to blame for that last scoring drive than cam is for "losing the game" on our last possession.  they killed scoring opportunities and jumped on turnovers that kept us in the game all afternoon.  the ineptitude of our coaching staff asked for one more puff of pixie dust out of them and it was one too many.

 

The defense have no one to blame but themselves for those scoring opportunities.

 

The offense turn the ball over deep in their own territory. Elite defenses step onto the field and get the ball back to the offense by shutting down the opposing team and giving their offense back the ball in great field position.

 

Instead the Panther's defense lets the Seahawks drive down the field to almost take the lead before the half, and then gives up the game winning touch down after the offense handed you back the game with the lead.

[PantherDynasty]

The defense have no one to blame but themselves for those scoring opportunities.

The offense turn the ball over deep in their own territory. Elite defenses step onto the field and get the ball back to the offense by shutting down the opposing team and giving their offense back the ball in great field position.

Instead the Panther's defense lets the Seahawks drive down the field to almost take the lead before the half, and then gives up the game winning touch down after the offense handed you back the game with the lead.

Elite defenses give their team a chance to win football games. Our D is far from elite, but they played pretty damn good today.

[mcdougal]

Elite defenses give their team a chance to win football games. Our D is far from elite, but they played pretty damn good today.

 

Elite defenses do more than give their team a chance to win.

 

That is the problem, our D is not elite. For ALL the allocation of resources they are eating up, THEY MUST be ELITE for us to win.

 

With the offensive talent we have, "pretty damn good" is not good enough.

 

The defense CANNOT give up game winning touch down drives, after your talent-deprived offense manages to score against the defending SB's elite defense.

[EcoFina]

The OP is right about one thing. You can't say anything critical of Cam here. Nothing is ever Cam's fault. 

 

LOTS of people have said Cam didn't play well today. It's the perverse idea that Cam is the reason we lost that's being rejected, because it's so severely stupid.

 

Name one QB in the league that has as bad of an O-Line or WR Corps (as a whole, not hating on Benjamin or even Cotchery) or offensive coordinator. Go ahead, I really want to see who's playing with a with worse than Cam.