Requirement to be a top-tier QB

[MichaelNewtonII]

Tom Brady last year had no weapons but still put up points.

imagine Tom Brady on the Broncos

[PanthersClinic]

I don't understand the 'no weapons' debate. People will always say Manning had tons of great weapons. I'd say the majority of those weapons were just young players before he started throwing them the ball and they suddenly became great.

 

top-tier qbs need consistency and playoff wins. Daunte Culpepper had amazing stats his first few years but that didn't hold up and his Vikings teams lost 41- in the playoffs.

 

Winning is important but most consider Roethlisberger a top tier QB and his Steelers teams have been up and down lately with no major success. Eli Manning is a sure HOFer but he's probably officially 'dropped off'. Rivers hasn't had the playoff success (no SB appearance). Brees won a SB and breaks records. Wilson won a SB but he's only shown it for one and a half seasons. Cam has no playoff wins but has shown small improvements each season.

 

I'd say right now Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are in a class of their own. Their teams win every year and they regularly outduel opposing QBs. Aaron Rodgers is one step below those two. His teams make the playoffs every year and he has the SB title but GB  tends to be less dominate.

 

Aside from that you have Brees who breaks records, Wilson and Flacco with SB wins, Rivers with years of quality play though a few bad seasons in the middle of his career.

 

Everyone else is a step below trying to join the discussion (cam kap) or has dropped off from being at the top (eli ben).

[WUnderhill]

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[Anybodyhome]

The entire idea of basing a QBs comparative "greatness" on wins, playoffs and Super Bowls is tossed into the crapper when you never hear Terry Bradshaw and his 4 Super Bowls as one of the best.

[MHS831]

I think the panthers will have some studs on O around Cam next year-He will be fine when he has time and a running game.  What QB in the NFL ever had better tools?

[t96]

McNabb was never great.

 

Yes he was. Not HoF worthy but he was as close to elite as it comes.

[Anybodyhome]

Yes he was. Not HoF worthy but he was as close to elite as it comes.

 

The relative youth commenting in this thread is clearly demonstrated by the lack of historical perspective.

 

[mc52beast]

A top tier qb= a guy who can take a bunch of average, rag-tag receivers and make them look like all-pros... a guy who is respected by his teammates because they know he leaves nothing on the field at 0:00... 

[Snake]

Good line and good WRs. No QB ever goes elite without them.

[TheMaulClaw]

A top tier QB is like pornography. Hard to describe but you know it when you see it.

 

Porno isn't that hard to describe.

[RJK]

Accuracy

[KillerKat]

And that's why people are stupid. There is no "requirement" for it, you just gotta watch them play and you can tell who's elite and who's not. Pin-point accuracy, pocket awareness, perfect decision making, touch on the ball, deep ball ability, etc. The QBs that can take over a game and not make huge mistakes are elite and there's only 4 of them right now. Rivers and Romo are close but not quite there. I'd have those two in the 2nd tier by themselves right now then after that Ben, Eli, Wilson, Cam, Luck, etc in no order.

Yea a lot of mouth breathers attribute team wins and team Super Bowls to the Quarterback, which is completely stupid. All-Pro selections help to show who is elite. Stats such as QB rating, Cmp%, TDs and INTs along with TD to INT ratio, and Yards per pass also help show who is elite.

[Marguide]

Putting the championship requirement into the argument requires you to defend the position that Bradshaw was a better QB than Marino.

You really want to do that?

[blackcat]

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