Requirement to be a top-tier QB

[mbarbour21]

Have some help around you.

This is Gregg Rosenthal's comment regarding Andrew Luck in his QB Index:

"But recognition as a true top-tier quarterback will arrive this year because he's getting more support."

This is not an Andrew Luck thread. Luck is a really good QB. Pretend this isn't about him, but about Quarterbacks in general.

I can't shake the fact I am seeing/hearing comments like this. Can you not be considered a top-tier QB without being surrounded by weapons? If you need weapons to be top-tier......wouldn't that suggest you were not top-tier??? So the question I am asking is:

What do you believe should qualify you as a top-tier QB?

[AKPantherFan]

Wins and Sb's

That's all ppl remember

[mbarbour21]

Wins and Sb's

That's all ppl remember

Yeh, but what about guys like McNabb or even other positions like Barry Sanders?

[t96]

Wins and Sb's

That's all ppl remember

And that's why people are stupid. There is no "requirement" for it, you just gotta watch them play and you can tell who's elite and who's not. Pin-point accuracy, pocket awareness, perfect decision making, touch on the ball, deep ball ability, etc. The QBs that can take over a game and not make huge mistakes are elite and there's only 4 of them right now. Rivers and Romo are close but not quite there. I'd have those two in the 2nd tier by themselves right now then after that Ben, Eli, Wilson, Cam, Luck, etc in no order.

[Luck's neckbeard]

Yeh, but what about guys like McNabb

McNabb was never great.

[Happy Panther]

A top tier QB is like pornography. Hard to describe but you know it when you see it.

[Brooklyn Bully]

Playoffs and stats.

[Killa Cam 69]

Marino?

[Car123]

McNabb was never great.

He was especially considering he had no weapons.

[philp]

philip rivers is a good one.  he's never going to really get the recognition he deserves unless he wins a couple super bowls.  

[WUnderhill]

A top tier QB is like pornography. Hard to describe but you know it when you see it.

 

Pornography's pretty easy to describe.

[rayzor]

production. move the ball and get the ball into the endzone. do your part. the bigger the part you play, the better you are. that's essentially it for me. everything else is just noise.

and QBs don't win or lose games. they may have big plays that help one way or the other, but a game isn't won on one or two big plays. it's a team effort that takes three phases and about 32 other players to pull off. all you can do is do your part and hope that the other contributors do their part or at least don't screw up bad enough to keep you from winning.

[Happy Panther]

Pornography's pretty easy to describe.

ok go!

[PandaPancake]

Tom Brady last year had no weapons but still put up points.