Colin Jones Ran a 4.3? Huh?

[bandu]

Let me add this just to clarify myself and how i feel about the free saftey position which is our weakest link on the team,right now,imho,is that,i only pitcure Colin Jones as a quick fix to this problem not the solution, and yes,i know about Godfrey,who doesnt,but i feel that can easily be addressed with Bene Benwikere permenately.

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm all for giving Jones and Boston both a shot. It's very difficult to imagine that pair being worse than the DeCoud/Harper pair. At least the young guys can actually run. What's the worst that could happen? The D gives up 30+ points on our way to getting blown out? Oh wait, that's happened 3 times already this year.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

At this point with the play of our current safetys I dont see why he shouldn't get a shot. It seems like every time he gets a chance he makes a play

[WCUcats]

I'm all for giving Jones and Boston both a shot. It's very difficult to imagine that pair being worse than the DeCoud/Harper pair. At least the young guys can actually run. What's the worst that could happen? The D gives up 30+ points on our way to getting blown out? Oh wait, that's happened 3 times already this year.

Jones and Boston are also young and can improve vastly with game experience. With DeCoud and Harper you know what you are going to get, and it's not good. 

[LUUUUUKE]

Line him up at WR and let him run a seam route! The worst thing that can happen is he beats the secondary and drops it much like LaFell and Ginn did for the better part of last season. At least he can take the top off the D

[The Huddler]

Harper has been abysmal honestly. Just the worst safety we've had since Jordan Pugh.

 

his tackling is a F-    fuging pathetic

 

[Thorrez]

I love Jones's speed but the fact is he missed a lot of tackles in the preseason. Being a gunner is your first priority is to cut off the angles before the returner picks up speed, if you make the tackles or someone else because the extra time you staled the returner is secondary.

At safety the runner already has full speed coming towards you so gunner skills does not have to translate into good safety tackling skills.

[jtnc]

He was pretty decent in the preseason.

[KendrickPanther]

Well there is a train of thought you don't make your Special teams ace a crappy starter. Just let him do what he does best. But I thought about it myself. At least he could run down these big gains we are giving up.

[mattnasty919]

Ok yea i agree old man harper is some ish but c'mon now.., worse than nakamura???

[Mr. Scot]

From what I can tell, the idea this offseason was to sign smart, veteran safeties who knew how to read opposing quarterbacks, be in the right place at the right time and take advantage of opportunities.

 

When your team has a dominant pass rush, that's a fantastic idea.

 

We no longer have a dominant pass rush

 

Behind the kind of line we have now, what you need are speedy, smart safeties; guys with 'catch up speed' for when a receiver gets free or a runningback breaks loose but also enough brains and experience to not get fooled by opposing quarterbacks.

 

Neither of our starters fits that bill in the athleticism department.  And before someone mentions it, neither does Godfrey.

 

Put in our backups you say?  They're inexperienced.  Opposing quarterbacks will take advantage of that.  We could conceivably be a little better off in time, but not by that much.

 

About the only guy on the team right now that I can actually see being half-decent is Bene Benwikere.  As a rookie he'll get taken advantage of sometimes, but he has the best overall combination of traits to work behind the current line.  Unfortunately, he's injured.

 

So in the end, what we have now is a good plan crushed by unforeseen circumstances

[Darth Biscuit]

The only times I've seen Harper do anything decent this season was every once in a while he'll make a tackle in run support.  That has been mainly in games where the whole defense has shown up tho...  in coverage he is an absolute disaster.  Takes horrible angles, is slow as molasses and just cannot cover NFL receivers.  I'll take faster over that all day even if the guy is inexperienced.

 

[Captroop]

I love Jones's speed but the fact is he missed a lot of tackles in the preseason. Being a gunner is your first priority is to cut off the angles before the returner picks up speed, if you make the tackles or someone else because the extra time you staled the returner is secondary.

At safety the runner already has full speed coming towards you so gunner skills does not have to translate into good safety tackling skills.

 

This.

 

I love Colin Jones. He's a guy whose jersey I'd like to get. He's one of those unheralded Nick Goings types who is an ace in area, but it doesn't necessarily translate to others.

 

Frankly, I'm not sure I want to start him on defense because of what him getting injured would mean to the special teams unit. Special Teams isn't sexy, but having a crappy special teams unit sucks. Ask Washington. Giving up 7 points a game and having the opposing offense start at their own 45 every drive is a game changer.

That said, I agree. He can't be worse than our current safeties.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

Everytime I seen Jones play I wonder why he doesn't get more playing time