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Can we ever become a great team with Rivera at the helm

MGH1989

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Having a great coach I believe is just as important as having a great QB to attaining consistent success (save someone like Peyton Manning who could win with me at HC). The teams that are consistently good all have outstanding coaches, guys like the Harbaugh brothers, Pete Carroll, Bill Belicheck. And while all these guys have very good or even great QB's you just feel different about them, like they have their poo together. I've never had that feeling with Rivera even last year. Obviously there is also a lot of extenuating circumstances given the cap hell Marty Hurney left us in and the roster not being up to snuff in a lot of areas, but I don't think I ever remember us getting blown out that bad this many times in a season under John Foxx (who is also just a guy). And I think I have to attribute a lot of that to the coaching staff and their inability to adapt.

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Having a great coach I believe is just as important as having a great QB to attaining consistent success (save someone like Peyton Manning who could win with me at HC). The teams that are consistently good all have outstanding coaches, guys like the Harbaugh brothers, Pete Carroll, Bill Belicheck. And while all these guys have very good or even great QB's you just feel different about them, like they have their poo together. I've never had that feeling with Rivera even last year. Obviously there is also a lot of extenuating circumstances given the cap hell Marty Hurney left us in and the roster not being up to snuff in a lot of areas, but I don't think I ever remember us getting blown out that bad this many times in a season under John Foxx (who is also just a guy). And I think I have to attribute a lot of that to the coaching staff and their inability to adapt.

 

I am beginning to doubt. We can't use that talent excuse. I mean GB took us apart basically with Rodgers, Nelson and Cobb. What talent does NE have? No team is going to have probowlers are every position. Having Cam, Olsen and KB should be enought to give us an opportuinty to win.

 

In any case, the coaches also pick the talent that make the team so there's that.

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Who knows.

 

I really like Ron, but the biggest thing I was worried about with him after the extension was him getting too comfortable again. About the only time we see Riverboat Ron anymore is when he is wasting a timeout on a stupid challenge that we clearly aren't going to win anyway.

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No!

 

Rivera's too loose a coach in so many ways.

 

He's bad at time management. He's usually not aggressive enough. Plays for FG too much, even when he shouldn't. Team seems undisciplined this year. Though he's a defensive coach, his teams have had way too many game losing lapses; if not outright bad, such as 2011 and 2014. He usually doesn't make the tough decisions with staff. And it goes on and on.

 

Once again; no!

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I am beginning to doubt. We can't use that talent excuse. I mean GB took us apart basically with Rodgers, Nelson and Cobb. What talent does NE have? No team is going to have probowlers are every position. Having Cam, Olsen and KB should be enought to give us an opportuinty to win.

 

In any case, the coaches also pick the talent that make the team so there's that.

Look at the Cowboys. They aren't that much more talented than they were last year when their defense was horrendous. Obviously they got a new coordinator in there and Garrett doesn't have his hands on his defense, but it shows you don't need top flight talent everywhere to succeed. Defense is suppose to be Riveras bread and better and I would like to think we have more talent on defense than Dallas (obviously their run game helps in terms of defense), yet we can't even be average. Hardy is a great player, but one guy doesn't suddenly make you a bottom 5 defense.

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