You are Gettleman: knowing what you know now do you sign hardy to a big ass deal?

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

So, do you sign Hardy to a long term contract? Or do you let him walk?

[hepcat]

why

[Francis J. Underwood]

Let him walk. We don't need people like him, even if it means a setback in our defense.

[UNCrules2187]

As bad as we've looked on defense this season, we can't afford to give Hardy the type of deal he wants. We've got too much cap space tied to the position as it is. It would be a MUCH tougher decision if he was an upstanding citizen, but given his erratic behavior off the field, I just don't think the Panthers can make the kind of commitment necessary to retain him, especially with long-term deals for Cam and Luke on the horizon.

[t96]

He won't be getting a "big ass deal" from anybody with the media uproar about DV. I would sign him for less than $10M/year for a couple years if and only if he's found innocent at trial and as terms of that deal I would make it that any future DV incident voids the entire amount of guaranteed money.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

if his arm can be twisted into a cheaper or incentive-laden contract that lets us kick him to the curb at little cost if he becomes a pain in the ass then you do it.  drew rosenhaus is his agent though so that's unlikely which means bye bye kraken.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

also if i am gettleman i go get on a treadmill

[teeray]

Two things I would wait for.

Trial verdict

Where we are with Cam extension and Kuechly's eventual extension and how a big contract + dead money affect getting a deal done with those two centerpieces

[TheRed]

Well now that we've seen what our defense looks like without him. If he does end up playing for the Panthers again this season, and the defense looks like it did last year, his chances of a big payday could go up again substantially. Especially if he is ultimately found innocent.

[panthers55]

What do we know at this point?  When will he play?  How productive will he be when he comes back?  Is his head screwed on better this time or is just going to be something else.?

 

Gettleman wasn't sold on him before this season and thought he was somewhat or a wild card.  Don't think that is changed.  I don't see him playing here unless he comes back this year and makes a big difference right off the bat.

[top dawg]

If Hardy gives us a bad boy discount that is overall cheaper, plus a deal laden with incentives for staying out of trouble AND doing your job on the field, then I am all for it.

[JJman]

Even if he's found guilty id sign him. Says a lot about me I know but he is crucial to our defense and we have a golden opportunity to sign him long term at a discount. fug whatever the media says.

4 years 32 million

[rayzor]

how good was hardy without johnson last year?

[cbarrier90]

how good was hardy without johnson last year?

Last year all the threads said that CJ was the more important defensive end after his absence from the MNF leg whip.

Regarding Hardy, don't bring him back. Make some more cuts. Focus the saved money on Cam and Luke extensions and improving the offensive line. Draft wise find some more Benes for the secondary and we are in business.