Cam v. Luck - The "Build Around" Philosophy

[CelibatePimp]

A good defense will go a long way to help than offensive weapons. I mean Matt Ryan has a lot of weapons but ATL is going nowhere fast. Though we have less weapons than ATL, we were able to do better because of defense.

[Ruff]

Inflating his stats? So a TD should not count because it was by a RB? No one here complains when Olsen is catching TDs from Cam.

 

Yeah, I dunno what his RBs or TEs catching TDs had to do with this, lol. A TE and a RB are weapons on offense. Use them.

[Brooklyn Bully]

You know what? If Zod could promise me that the All-Pro section will NEVER EVER have a Cam Comparison or a Luke Comparison thread, or that butthurt Luck haters won't ever post there ... I'd actually join up.

 

The guys on this site are staring to lose their minds lately. God help us if Luck ever wins a Super Bowl.

[CelibatePimp]

Yeah, I dunno what his RBs or TEs catching TDs had to do with this, lol. A TE and a RB are weapons on offense. Use them.

 

Cam has the most TDs since Dan Marino for their first three years in the league. How would we feel if people started to say he inflated those numbers due to his rushing TDs?

 

[Ruff]

Cam has the most TDs since Dan Marino for their first three years in the league. How would we feel if people started to say he inflated those numbers due to his rushing TDs?

 

You would be called a Gettleman hater for that... Somehow.

[Jeremy Igo]

I still can't figure out why so many people constantly compare Cam to Luck. They aren't even in the same rookie class.

 

 

It is really strange.

[Ruff]

I still can't figure out why so many people constantly compare Cam to Luck. They aren't even in the same rookie class.

 

 

It is really strange.

 

Why is any player compared to any other player? Luke to Urlacher? etc. Comparing greatness to greatness.

[CelibatePimp]

Maybe Shula should learn more about the "spider two y banana" play call to get Cam more TDs to the RBs.

[Jeremy Igo]

Why is any player compared to any other player? Luke to Urlacher? etc. Comparing greatness to greatness.

 

But every week? It's really strange.

[CelibatePimp]

But every week? It's really strange.

 

Nah, it's peaked because it's becoming almost unanimous that Luck is the best young QB out there and people are just hating.

[Mr. Scot]

Except, there's already evidence to support the contrary. Sorry Mr. Scot.

Not really.

Gettleman's long term team building model follows very closely with what the Giants have done under Ernie Accorsi / Jerry Reese. That shouldn't really shock anyone since that's where he spent the last dozen years or so before taking over here.

It can't rightly be called similar to Hurney's long term model because all Hurney ever did was react to team needs on an annual basis. There was no rhyme or reason, no year to year approach. Nothing proactive. All reactive. Basically, plug this hole, that hole and the other hole and pray the boat stays afloat.

Gettleman, by contrast, continually emphasizes long term plans and building toward a perennial contender. And he applies particular philosophies to that goal.

Essentially apeaking, if we were talking about financial planners, Gentleman would be the investment advisor. Hurney would be the convenience store clerk selling lottery tickets.

[teeray]

You can build a team around a QB, not just the offense

[panthers55]

Weapons are not just draft picks but free agents which have made up a big portion of our offensive weapons. Talking about weapons without including all of them make the whole discussion rather inadequate, don't you agree. Why not include them and then make the comparison?

Just a suggestion and no I don't care enough to look it up myself.......

[Ruff]

Not really.

Gettleman's long term team building model follows very closely with what the Giants have done under Ernie Accorsi / Jerry Reese. That shouldn't really shock anyone since that's where he spent the last dozen years or so before taking over here.

It can't rightly be called similar to Hurney's long term model because all Hurney ever did was react to team needs on an annual basis. There was no rhyme or reason, no year to year approach. Nothing proactive. All reactive. Basically, plug this hole, that hole and the other hole and pray the boat stays afloat.

Gettleman, by contrast, continually emphasizes long term plans and building toward a perennial contender. And he applies particular philosophies to that goal.

Essentially apeaking, if we were talking about financial planners, Gentleman would be the investment advisor. Hurney would be the convenience store clerk selling lottery tickets.

 

Yet, this comparison isn't about the long term. It's about two years under Hurney and two years under Gettleman. Those four years are strikingly similar. Next year, there will be potentially be different numbers that scale the percentage differently, but, they won't change the model that much.