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MNF: Seattle (2-1) @ Washington (1-3) Game Thread

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Keep convincing yourself that.

 

hes in denial

 

the 3 best teams in 2013 were the seahawks, 49ers, and panthers... what do those teams have in common... mobile qb+ top 10 defense= playoffs

 

wilson beat brees and manning

kaepernick beat rodgers

cam beat beat brady

 

these new young qbs are so advanced and unlike their predeccesors mcnabb, vick, and culpepper... they relish in taking on elite pocket passers... brady, manning, and brees wont be here in 5 years... what type of qb do you think will replace them.... 

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Dan Marino and Peyton Manning have most the records though. Vick is on the bench, The Golden Calf of Bristol is out of the league, Culpepper was amazing initially but burned out, Jamarcus Russel was a dud.

Wilson is much smarter than the other running qbs. Because of that he avoids injury and I imagine he'll be able to start and play at a high level well into his 30s unlike a lot of other mobile QBs.

Cam and Kap aren't Wilson. Be nice if they were but they just aren't. Neither are as good in the pocket. Neither have as good of a deep ball. Neither are wise enough to know when to go down and not absorb a hit.

Wilson is a unique talent. Cam and Kap are nothing like him.

Kap, wilson, cam, Bridgewater, Winston, etc. Are still babies playing the position. The future is bright. I bet you can't list a better 5 young QBs in the opposite end of the spectrum better than them. Fluko, Luck, stafford? Don't make me laugh.
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Dan Marino and Peyton Manning have most the records though. Vick is on the bench, The Golden Calf of Bristol is out of the league, Culpepper was amazing initially but burned out, Jamarcus Russel was a dud.

Wilson is much smarter than the other running qbs. Because of that he avoids injury and I imagine he'll be able to start and play at a high level well into his 30s unlike a lot of other mobile QBs.

Cam and Kap aren't Wilson. Be nice if they were but they just aren't. Neither are as good in the pocket. Neither have as good of a deep ball. Neither are wise enough to know when to go down and not absorb a hit.

Wilson is a unique talent. Cam and Kap are nothing like him.

Wilson is a lot like HOF QB Fran Tarkenton, another game manager that didn't pass much with great legs. Tark was a 9-time Pro Bowler, first two at age 24 and 25 (his 4th and 5th yrs in the League). Wilson was a Pro Bowler at age 24 and 25, his 1st two years in the League. Currently a Top 5 NFL MVP candidate at age 26

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Wilson is a lot like HOF QB Fran Tarkenton, another game manager that didn't pass much with great legs. Tark was a 9-time Pro Bowler, first two at age 24 and 25 (his 4th and 5th yrs in the League). Wilson was a Pro Bowler at age 24 and 25, his 1st two years in the League. Currently a Top 5 NFL MVP candidate at age 26

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Wilson has the 2nd highest passer rating in NFL History

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The takeover is scary right?  The paradigm has been shifting for a while and frankly this is only the beginning.  Pretty much all of the next generation of top quarterbacks are dual threats (legitimate dual threats whose elite passing skills complement superb athletic mobility). This includes both college and high school. And like it or not, Luck is a dual threat quarterback as well. It's ok though.  Change is the only constant in life.

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Wilson is a lot like HOF QB Fran Tarkenton, another game manager that didn't pass much with great legs. Tark was a 9-time Pro Bowler, first two at age 24 and 25 (his 4th and 5th yrs in the League). Wilson was a Pro Bowler at age 24 and 25, his 1st two years in the League. Currently a Top 5 NFL MVP candidate at age 26

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Wilson is an efficient player who can make all the throws. Throwing the ball 50 times is stupid. That's coaching with no creativity. It shouldn't take 500 yards passing to win a game. That's ugly bad defensive football, which I hate.
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Matt Flynn was blowing up the stats in Green Bay but couldn't cut as even a 2nd stringer in Seattle. To all those people arguing that some other QB would do better or as well as Wilson need to think about that.

Very good point. When Rodgers was out last year he kept them afloat for a playoff spot yet couldn't make it in seattle. Interesting!
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I think Wilson is fantastic. But to say he doesn't need weapons is a poor argument. Marshawn Lynch is a top 3 RB and Harvin is one of the most electrifying players in the game. He's great but let's keep it 100

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Wilson has the 2nd highest passer rating in NFL History

again, similar to Fran Tarkenton, who finished the season Top 4 in the NFL in passer rating NINE times (#1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4) and in the Top 10 of the NFL in passer rating SIXTEEN seasons (the above plus #6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 9, 10)

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hes in denial

 

the 3 best teams in 2013 were the seahawks, 49ers, and panthers... what do those teams have in common... mobile qb+ top 10 defense= playoffs

 

wilson beat brees and manning

kaepernick beat rodgers

cam beat beat brady

 

these new young qbs are so advanced and unlike their predeccesors mcnabb, vick, and culpepper... they relish in taking on elite pocket passers... brady, manning, and brees wont be here in 5 years... what type of qb do you think will replace them.... 

 

2012 Matt Ryan beat Wilson. Also Vick and Culpepper went deep in the NFC playoffs during their day, Mcnair went to a Super Bowl.

 

Nothing new is happening. There have been great mobile QBs in the past.

 

The biggest factor is the new coaches with fresh approaches in Harbaugh and Carroll and the discount price QBs. I'll be a believer when these teams are this good and Cam, Kap, Wilson have 100 million salaries.

 

Flacco looked amazing with the best NFL defense as well. The past two years he's looked good but not great.

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