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Shula, take note

panthers90

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CRA Grand Master

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And how many of those games did we have to win in spite of shoddy playcalling? The past couple weeks, sure, I'll go with the OL and defense being too bad to win regardless of playcalling. Today, we looked OK (outside of a the OL a few times). Good enough to win handily, especially after seeing the drive before halftime and that scoring drive early in the 2nd half when we went up-tempo. But we didn't, we had to win late with our defense coming through big time in the 4th quarter, twice.

We can't keep leaning on the defense alone. The 49ers in the playoffs showed us that last season.

Playoff game showed we had no OL, no traditional run, and weak WRs. Arguing you can scheme around that in the postseason is silly.

Shula always looks okay when the rest of the team looks decent. He can't overcome other units playing like poo.....isn't the design of what he is hired to do

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Snake Grand Master

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This is every game, win lose or blowout someone always has excuses for Shula. It's never him and always the little things. If we'd just run what he calls flawlessly we'd win 100% of the time right?

I disagree, regardless of anything Shula has consistently been a bad OC. Sometimes he will realize that and change but it's super rare. He is predictable, simple, stubborn, and unable to adjust to anything other than what he needs to win(a great defense, low scoring game, or a TOP game) which makes him bad at his job. Madden recommended calls can do better than him!

You can cherry pic game after game making excuses for Shula but in his entire career he is bad. I think we win despite him not because of him.

I think its less about being hard headed and more about not having a clue.

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R0CKnR0LLA Proficient

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There were some stretches where playcalling was very good but there were also far too many moments where we went full Shula. And you never go full Shula. Reminds me a lot of the Detroit game in this way. Sadly a game where half of the playcalling is decent and the other has looks more basic than a JV High School squad is about the best we can hope for out of Shula.

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Inimicus Mentor

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Your calling forum member names directly. Belittling them because they disagree with you. If you disagree with them then do it without calling them names or saying they don't know what they are talking about.

 

No...

 

Im the one encouraging forum members to put things into perspective and realize that the man they are calling stupid has substantially more demonstrable experience and knowledge about the game than they do.  And not to assume they know everything that was said/transpired between the end of one offensive down and the start of the next.

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No...

Im the one encouraging forum members to put things into perspective and realize that the man they are calling stupid has substantially more demonstrable experience and knowledge about the game than they do. And not to assume they know everything that was said/transpired between the end of one offensive down and the start of the next.

Only one person said directly he was stupid. Most of the other posts say he's a bad OC. No one assumes they know more(well some might) but I don't. I just disagree with you I think Shula is a bad OC and proven to be so over his career. If not for our defense it would be even more clear from last year.

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CPantherKing Grand Master

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While I do not like Shula ball, I will not get on the hate wagon.

 

Personally, I believe we should be running a spread offense with the personnel the Panthers are fielding. This plays to their personnel strengths. A power running game plays to the Panthers weaknesses.

 

What I do know is Shula has consistently ranked among the top 15 offensive coordinators in the NFL and he is on pace to do that again this season. I have listed the key measures for an offensive coordinator in previous threads.

 

Point is if you want to replace Shula, there are only 10 that you can say will be an improvement. All the others are just as good or worse than Shula. Think about it. Shula has been the most productive and efficient offensive coordinator the Panthers have had in their history. And the OCs that I would take over Shula already have a job.

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What is going on in this thread? The only point I wanted to make was that our run game was not working in the first half with no threat or rhythm in the passing game. The drive that ended with the Briggs pick, and and the end of the half got the rhythm going. 2nd half, we come out slinging the ball and the run game magically picks up. 

 

Was not praising or affirming Shula.

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teeray Rookie

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You say that but I don't see the evidence you speak of. I see the opposite of what you say, him calling bad plays or choosing to play at a tempo or scheme that doesn't match what it's like on the field.

Check out our record with him as OC. All the evidence you should need

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