NFL QB rankings for 1st quarter

[Redaes]

All I'm saying is white QBs accomplishments are on the back of athletically gifted black players. So people should be careful talking about black QB this, white QB that. The common denominator is the black skill players. Even if there were no black QB in the league people should still refrain from being fresh.

Like Barkley say, 'this is a black men game'

So what you're saying is that Cam's success comes off the back of an athletically gifted white man and we should praise Olsen and not Cam?

[Redaes]

I wouldn't even call Peyton Manning the greatest QB of all time. Statistically, he may appear so, but we all know better. Peyton has the high IQ and accuracy but he's average when the going gets tough, and lacks heart.

Not to mention my 5'4 110lb girlfriend can throw a football harder than Peyton.

Gross regular season stats don't measure greatness. Otherwise Karl Malone is better than Michael Jordan.

[Mother Grabber]

Colts upcoming schedule...

vs Ravens

@Texans

vs Bengals

@ Steelers

@ Giants

...Luck is about to come tumbling back down to reality.

if he doesn't, will you admit he's good?

[CPF4LIFE]

Luck threw 49 passes today for barely over 300 yards and 1 TD......if Cam had a did that......you know what never mind.

[mbarbour21]

Luck is a really good QB. We have to keep in mind that it is still early in his pro career. However, he IS overrated. Yes, he broke Cam's rookie passing record. Big whoop! Cam also broke rookie rushing records and the overall rushing TD record IN THE SAME SEASON! Luck didnt even put a dent in that. Plus he threw more than Cam as well, probably due to Cam's rushing.

Either way, Luck has had FAR less competition. If the Colts were in the NFC South.....things would be a lot diff. But he isnt. No reason to paint Luck as horrible, but he isnt what he is made out to be.....at least not yet.

[Thal]

i mean i guess, but if primarily black receiving corps are the constant and the race of the QBs are the variables, shouldn't you still be able to talk rationally about comparing them? and why does it matter who their accomplishments are on the back of? unless said QB is spouting off without deference to his teammates?

i guess i fail to see where you're going with this

Unless you can tell me there is an all white team with the best white QB capable of winning a superbowl then race should be of no essence. Any racial argument assert that whites are better and we all know that's laughable.

[B.BERSIN]

Cam also broke rookie rushing records and the overall rushing TD record IN THE SAME SEASON! Luck didnt even put a dent in that. Plus he threw more than Cam as well, probably due to Cam's rushing.

Still remember experts praising his "great" ability to run the ball before the draft.

LOL

[Thal]

So what you're saying is that Cam's success comes off the back of an athletically gifted white man and we should praise Olsen and not Cam?

I'm pretty sure there's a boatload of black TEs that could take the place of Olsen. We all know Cam doesn't succeed because of Olsen. By the way, Olsen is athletically gifted? Lol

[mbarbour21]

Still remember experts praising his "great" ability to run the ball before the draft.

LOL

Yeh, remember Luck being picked as the best rushing QB??? Hahahaha! Wow......just wow. Anyway, he has the ability to run with it, I'm not pretending he doesn't. I think he is smart about when to tuck and run as well. However, naming him the best rushing QB only proves that he is overrated. It isn't even a question.

[mcdougal]

Luck is a really good QB. We have to keep in mind that it is still early in his pro career. However, he IS overrated. Yes, he broke Cam's rookie passing record. Big whoop! Cam also broke rookie rushing records and the overall rushing TD record IN THE SAME SEASON! Luck didnt even put a dent in that. Plus he threw more than Cam as well, probably due to Cam's rushing.

Either way, Luck has had FAR less competition. If the Colts were in the NFC South.....things would be a lot diff. But he isnt. No reason to paint Luck as horrible, but he isnt what he is made out to be.....at least not yet.

 

This really could not be said any better. Luck IS a good QB, a franchise QB, a QB to build around and hopefully win Superbowl with.

 

But he is not the greatest QB and he is AMAZINGLY overrated. There is not a single thing that Luck does/has that Newton, Kaepernick, Wilson, heck even throw in RGIII does not did/have. The only thing that Luck beats them out in is passing yards...but that is not all that surprising since he throws the ball 40+ times a game, and those QB do not.

 

And no, that does not mean "he is more capable of handling an offense that throws the ball more than those QBs."

 

Not sure about this year, but if you look at Luck's attempts and compare them to Newton, Kaepernick, Wilson (not sure about RGIII), you would realize that as Luck's attempts increases...his QB rating decreases, generally. Generally, the more Wilson and Kaepernick attempts, the higher their QB rating increases--the same with Newton, although not as strongly.

 

So it is not hard to reason, that if Newton, Kaepernick, Wilson were in more pass happy offenses, they would throw for as many yards as Luck currently. God knows, they already beat him in wins, QB ratings, TD/INT ratios, total TDs, etc. while playing a significantly harder schedules.

[twylyght]

If you're good enough, the stats just come.  The rest of the blabber is a loser making excuses for their failings rather than working to make themselves better.  Take a moment to put on some character before assuming that the rest of the world is the problem.

 

As for the Luck-Peyton comparisons, Luck is more athletic and throws a better ball.  Peyton really chucks some ducks up there.  Most of what makes Peyton so great is his work ethic and ridiculous capacity to diagnose the defense's play before the ball is snapped.  If any other QB is chucking those ducks, they get intercepted on a regular occasion this league.

[Luke Cage]

Lol @ the guy who made the comments about black players. So Cam has to do what he did in his rookie season in every season in order to be on that list.

Talk about spoon-fed by our media. Also, it shows the difference in the playing field for the white QBs vs. blacks.

They are worried that's all. It makes them feel insecure about their life prospects when blacks succeed at anything (especially in spheres traditionally dominated by white males) because, in their underdeveloped minds, it means that the societal trend of them being guaranteed things because of their appearance is on the decline.

Black men in leadership positions just scares some people. You can play second fiddle (ie wo, rb, pretty much any other position besides qb) and they will praise you and be ok with that. But the moment you want to lift your gaze and attempt to take a leadership position, the narrative changes completely.

[heel31ok]

Matt Ryan # 3 ???? I don't think so.

 

hating him doesn't drop him down the list, though it should. I can't wait til we have a chance to personally change his ranking.

 

[PhillyB]

Unless you can tell me there is an all white team with the best white QB capable of winning a superbowl then race should be of no essence. Any racial argument assert that whites are better and we all know that's laughable.

 

i wholeheartedly agree… but who was arguing whites are better?