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A big play offense (minus the big plays)


Mr. Scot

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Heard Troy Aikman while he was calling another game last week refer to that team's offense as "a big play offense with no big plays". 

 

Couldn't help but think "Man, that's pretty much us too" :(

 

The Panthers do indeed run a 'big play' offense; specifically, a Coryell offense.  For those who have heard that term thrown around here but aren't sure what it means, here's a basic primer:

 

The Coryell Offense (sometimes called Air Coryell) is based on vertical, downfield passing supplemented by a strong running game. The idea is to have a multidimensional attack so that the opposing defense can't concentrate on simply stopping one thing or covering one area of the field.  It's considered a 'big play' offense, meaning that you might see three or four modest plays suddenly followed by a huge chuck down the field for a bunch of yards and maybe a score.

 

So what sorts of things do you need to make that kind of attack work?

 

- Deep threat receivers with great hands (helps a lot of they can block too)

- Solid pass catching tight ends and slot receivers to attack the middle

- A combination of power runningbacks and speed/pass catching backs

- An offensive line that's strong in both run and pass blocking

- A quarterback that can air it out and makes good decisions

 

So looking at that little grocery list, tell me what we have and what we lack.

 

Which of these aspects are we most set at, and which just aren't there at all?

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Heard Troy Aikman while he was calling another game last week refer to that team's offense as "a big play offense with no big plays". 

 

Couldn't help but think "Man, that's pretty much us too" :(

 

The Panthers do indeed run a 'big play' offense; specifically, a Coryell offense.  For those who have heard that term thrown around here but aren't sure what it means, here's a basic primer:

 

The Coryell Offense (sometimes called Air Coryell) is based on vertical, downfield passing supplemented by a strong running game. The idea is to have a multidimensional attack so that the opposing defense can't concentrate on simply stopping one thing or covering one area of the field.  It's considered a 'big play' offense, meaning that you might see three or four modest plays suddenly followed by a huge chuck down the field for a bunch of yards and maybe a score.

 

So what sorts of things do you need to make that kind of attack work?

 

- Deep threat receivers with great hands (helps a lot of they can block too)

- Solid pass catching tight ends and slot receivers to attack the middle

- A combination of power runningbacks and speed/pass catching backs

- An offensive line that's strong in both run and pass blocking

- A quarterback that can air it out and makes good decisions

 

So looking at that little grocery list, tell me what we have and what we lack.

 

Which of these aspects are we most set at, and which just aren't there at all?

 

 

We have: TEs,  1 Deep treat, RB combo,semi- OL, and a GOAT QB. 

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I didn't read, couldn't respond to your full post. But I do believe that the Panthers are on pace to have much more 15-20+ yd plays this year than they had last year!

 

So they are returning to a big play offense again. The Panthers just need to know how to mix up the short stuff. And Shula needs to show better play calling in/near the redzone.

 

Panthers kicked too many FG's this year that should have been TD's, or shots at the enzone.

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Heard Troy Aikman while he was calling another game last week refer to that team's offense as "a big play offense with no big plays". 

 

Couldn't help but think "Man, that's pretty much us too" :(

 

The Panthers do indeed run a 'big play' offense; specifically, a Coryell offense.  For those who have heard that term thrown around here but aren't sure what it means, here's a basic primer:

 

The Coryell Offense (sometimes called Air Coryell) is based on vertical, downfield passing supplemented by a strong running game. The idea is to have a multidimensional attack so that the opposing defense can't concentrate on simply stopping one thing or covering one area of the field.  It's considered a 'big play' offense, meaning that you might see three or four modest plays suddenly followed by a huge chuck down the field for a bunch of yards and maybe a score.

 

So what sorts of things do you need to make that kind of attack work?

 

- Deep threat receivers with great hands (helps a lot of they can block too)

- Solid pass catching tight ends and slot receivers to attack the middle

- A combination of power runningbacks and speed/pass catching backs

- An offensive line that's strong in both run and pass blocking

- A quarterback that can air it out and makes good decisions

 

So looking at that little grocery list, tell me what we have and what we lack.

 

Which of these aspects are we most set at, and which just aren't there at all?

Offensive line is biggest hindrance.  Our RBs could be fine rushing the ball with some blocking.  Hard to tell if we have a good scat back because we don't throw often to backs.  (We should though).

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- A combination of power runningbacks and speed/pass catching backs

- An offensive line that's strong in both run and pass blocking

 

Clearly we have neither of these two ingredients.

 

I could argue that we do actually have the first of those two.  It's just hurt right now.

 

Point number two?  Not much I can say there :(

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I didn't read, couldn't respond to your full post. But I do believe that the Panthers are on pace to have much more 15-20+ yd plays this year than they had last year!

 

So they are returning to a big play offense again. The Panthers just need to know how to mix up the short stuff. And Shula needs to show better play calling in/near the redzone.

 

Panthers kicked too many FG's this year that should have been TD's, or shots at the enzone.

 

Yes, I think the Panthers are way ahead of last years big play count thanks to Cam & Benji. And if Cam continues to drop those sweet passes to Cotchery....mmmmmm.

 

This offense can't sustain drives like last year.

 

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Remember, Panthers were amongst the leaders in explosive plays Newton's first two years. And if you ask me, the offensive group the Panthers have this year, is as good or better than the one they had in 2011, 2012 (even before the RB's got hurt).

 

Of course now, the RB's are worse than every before due to injuries, making the team not nearly as flexible. But the receivers are much better than in 2011. The TE's were better in 2011, but the better WR's are better now so that offsets it.

 

If the RB's were healthy, and the OC could be reliable, then I would definitely expect this years Panther team to be much more explosive than even the 2011 one. However, with the current RB injuries, unless there's a change in offensive direction to compensate for the injured RB's (sweeps, bootlegs, screens, reverses, etc., follow by intermediate and down field throws),

 

I'll keep my hopes up. But they are ahead in explosive plays--at this point--compared to last years team.

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This offense can't sustain drives like last year.

 

 

I think they have a much better potential too IF our run game can get back to average.

 

We've had good 3rd down success at 3rd and medium/short with the passing game.  If we can average 3-4 yards a carry rushing, it should help us a lot on 3rd down.  

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I think they have a much better potential too IF our run game can get back to average.

 

We've had good 3rd down success at 3rd and medium/short with the passing game.  If we can average 3-4 yards a carry rushing, it should help us a lot on 3rd down.  

 

I'd love to believe getting our backfield healthy again helps us reach that goal.

 

But then I look at the run blocking... :unsure:

 

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