Shula Has To Go Soon

[CollegePanther]

Sure, it's not entirely Mike's fault. I mean it's not like Gettleman has gave him much to work with. But on the other hand I know someone with a better football mind can use the strengths of Cam and co. much better. This has just been ugly; who runs the ball on fuging 3rd and 8? Much less with what we have at OL and RB. So question is, with Chudzinski now listed as a Special Assistant for Indy, do you think there's any chance we could bring him back? He knows most of the players on this offense and could do a much better job with them IMO.

[carolina-chuck]

NOWWWWWWWWW

[CharlottePanther]

Bring back Chud. Why do people here hate him so much?' Sure he went full stupid some games, but he finally reeled it in and we finished the season strong. Ive said this a million times, we do not have the defense NOR the running game NOR the oline to run a Shula offense. Literally every single one of our RBs are out, thats Chuds wet dream come true right there seeing as how he hates utilizing RBs anyway.

Bring back 2011 Chud and the two TE sets and live and die by the high octane passing offense. Our D is playing like ass now anyway. Might as well try to win shoot outs.

Cam is a waaay better QB and better passer now than he was a couple years ago. Him, Cam and KB would do wonders together. With Dwil, Tolbert and Stewie out anyway, that takes the pressure off Chud to feel forced to have to use RBs, now he could truely do what he wants to do. Chud knows Cam, knows this personnel, knows Ron and would be a seamless transition. Mark my words, Rivera is giving serious thought to bringing Chud back, he just wont say it publicly

[teeray]

Geez, I appreciate your thoughts CP but do we need to start the same thread twice a day?

[JJman]

With all due respect (and I agree with what you say) there is already like 5 threads on this.

[CollegePanther]

I haven't really seen us do bad passing all year. I think Mike's main problem is that he tries too hard to establish the run, which is great and all, but we don't have any RBs... or an OL.

[CollegePanther]

My bad, didn't see the other one. Haven't been on the forum today 

[teeray]

My bad, didn't see the other one. Haven't been on the forum today

No problem. Not trying to be an ass, and this thread will probably go 10 plus pages but there is one on first page, second page, third page, etc

[Nick_81]

I don't care too much for Shula either. Probably why Ramsdell was hired. That dude is an offensive genius, and it won't surprise me to see him as OC next season.

[chknwing]

Shula is a yes man and is exactly who rivera and gm want right now. gman, rivera and sean are all defense guys.  this is a defense team, they dont want some big shot oc guy telling them what they need to do.

[xerxes]

Bring back Chud. Why do people here hate him so much?' Sure he went full stupid some games, but he finally reeled it in and we finished the season strong. Ive said this a million times, we do not have the defense NOR the running game NOR the oline to run a Shula offense. Literally every single one of our RBs are out, thats Chuds wet dream come true right there seeing as how he hates utilizing RBs anyway.

Bring back 2011 Chud and the two TE sets and live and die by the high octane passing offense. Our D is playing like ass now anyway. Might as well try to win shoot outs.

Cam is a waaay better QB and better passer now than he was a couple years ago. Him, Cam and KB would do wonders together. With Dwil, Tolbert and Stewie out anyway, that takes the pressure off Chud to feel forced to have to use RBs, now he could truely do what he wants to do. Chud knows Cam, knows this personnel, knows Ron and would be a seamless transition. Mark my words, Rivera is giving serious thought to bringing Chud back, he just wont say it publicly

As much as we crap on Shula, we have a ton of evidence Chud was a problem. DWill and Smitty took multiple shots at him after he left. RR commented that the hardest part about being a new HC was building a cohesive coaching staff (hint the only significant change was Chud). Reportedly he ran through plays only once during practice and didn't bother to check if players were comfortable with it.

There's a reason he was fired mid-season in Cleveland. Chud is just too much of a headache to justify his "genius".

[WhoAmI?]

You can't argue with results. This Carolina passing offense was top 10 both seasons he was here, had a top 10 passing offense with Cleveland (who I think is stupid for letting him go so quick), etc. And please don't pull the record card. We were trending up with Chud and he seemed to be getting better in his 2nd year. Cam has matured as a person and passer, we now have Kelvin, and we have 3 tight ends who aren't being used right. Shula out, Chud in! I'm all for it. You know Chud loves those two tight end sets. Besides, you already know our running game isn't going to do anything this year. Might as well go with an all out air attack this year.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

I've read up on Ramsdell's resume on the Panthers website. It's probably just pro panthers staff propaganda, but holy hell I went from 6 to 12.

 

Can't be any worse than shula

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

You can't argue with results. This Carolina offense was top 10 both seasons he was here, had a top 10 offense with Cleveland (who I think is stupid for letting him go so quick), etc. And please don't pull the record card. We were trending up with Chud and he seemed to be getting better in his 2nd year. Cam has matured as a person and passer, we now have Kelvin, and we have 3 tight ends who aren't being used right. Shula out, Chud in! I'm all for it. You know Chud loves those two tight end sets.

 

This isn't true at all. We were 5th in 2011, but went to 18th in 2012. Browns were ranked 27th last year.