At what point does Rivera consider the nuclear option...

[hepcat]

My opinion is based on watching countless practices this year and his near complete uninvolvement. He appears to be more of a tutor for Ken Dorsey than anything.

 

Considering he's just an assistant, he's not in charge of a position group or anything so he doesn't need to be on the field during a practice.  Does that mean he's not helping behind closed doors?  Seems pointless to bring a guy in with his extensive experience with prolific passing attacks and not use it.  Especially now since every decent running back the Panthers have is injured.

[Jeremy Igo]

Considering he's just an assistant, he's not in charge of a position group or anything so he doesn't need to be on the field during a practice. Does that mean he's not helping behind closed doors? Seems pointless to bring a guy in with his extensive experience with prolific passing attacks and not use it. Especially now since every decent running back the Panthers have is injured.

Yes, it seems pointless.

[TheRumGone]

we actually thought the Panthers were SB contenders after the 1st 2 games... holy poo.

 

the o line literally fell apart (as well as the defense).

 

we faced, fairly, suh, mccoy the first two games and the oline did a great job. we faced a monster offense in detroit and we stymied them. there was reason to be that optimistic.

[hepcat]

the o line literally fell apart (as well as the defense).

 

we faced, fairly, suh, mccoy the first two games and the oline did a great job. we faced a monster offense in detroit and we stymied them. there was reason to be that optimistic.

 

Pittsburgh really set the blueprint for how to beat Carolina's defense.  Use patient running backs to wait for holes.  Carolina's defense has a tendency to over-pursue so if the running back is patient, you can easily run on Carolina's defense.  I can't tell you how many times I saw Wes Horton #96 blow past the running back trying to get a sack.  I know he's a young inexperienced player, but this kind of stuff means is why Carolina defense looks like the 2011 version right now.

[B.BERSIN]

Our HC is not an idiot, if we fans can see the problem, he sure does. BUT he has to consider more things and will make the call when the time is right.

[beastson]

I'll hold off judgement until after next week, although Shula can definitely go for obvious reasons 

 

I knew, but forgot our struggles against the 3-4. The struggle is real. I'll wait to see what we do at home against the Bears, a bottom 20th ranked defense 

[bleys]

the o line literally fell apart (as well as the defense).

 

we faced, fairly, suh, mccoy the first two games and the oline did a great job. we faced a monster offense in detroit and we stymied them. there was reason to be that optimistic.

 

it'll be interesting to see if Gettleman makes a move..  That's assuming 1 player is going to help gel the other 4 players..  I can't say I feel all too optimistic if the coaching staff doesn't already have a game plan on how to at least make this look somewhat adequate.

[MedellinHeel]

My problem with Shula is he doesn't seem to understand what balance is. He swings wildly week to week and overcorrects his gameplans. Run only 10 times vs the Steelers, wtf? Ok, lemme go the other way, let's run 26 times against Baltimore with a rookie UDFA. 

 

C'mon dude, understand your personnel. Understand the O-line isn't that great and the ball needs to come out quickly, transition to a quick passing offense like SD and NYG have, throw digs, slants, hitches, smoke routes, DRILL into Cam's head that the ball needs to come out within 3 seconds.

 

This. So much this. 

 

We need to be on that 3 step drop time. 

 

Anything longer and Cam is getting sacked. 

[FootballMaestro]

it'll be interesting to see if Gettleman makes a move..  That's assuming 1 player is going to help gel the other 4 players..  I can't say I feel all too optimistic if the coaching staff doesn't already have a game plan on how to at least make this look somewhat adequate.

 

It'll be interesting, if Rivera makes a move.

 

Sometimes you just need to shake things up (whether internally or externally; publicly or privately with the offense/OC/Play calling)!

 

But you can't wait to long.

 

Panthers may need to shake things up!

[Lumps]

While I really hate Shula, no OC can mask 4/5 third string olineman starting for this team.

[ed bell]

Gettleman certainly hasn't shown to be the type to shy away from shaking things up, but seriously, it's four games in and we are 2-2. You can't expect that they will try, or even be able to make major adjustments right this moment.

[LA_Panther]

Canning Shula should be like breathing or blinking ... hardly a Nuclear option

[teeray]

This. Shula should be helping out the O-line by calling quick developing plays or leaving an outlet for Newton underneath.

He can't. There are usually defenders crowding short routes giving up deep plays. O line can't hold blocks long enough to exploit it and RBs are having to stay in to help block

[TheRumGone]

Pittsburgh really set the blueprint for how to beat Carolina's defense.  Use patient running backs to wait for holes.  Carolina's defense has a tendency to over-pursue so if the running back is patient, you can easily run on Carolina's defense.  I can't tell you how many times I saw Wes Horton #96 blow past the running back trying to get a sack.  I know he's a young inexperienced player, but this kind of stuff means is why Carolina defense looks like the 2011 version right now.

 

that maybe true but there was no patient rbs with the ravens there were just massive holes they slammed through. o lineman were getting to the second level and pancaking/holding up luke and others.

 

we also have not played with any intensity or fire. we look lost out there like everything is happening to us instead of us forcing our will on them.