Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

[Mr. Scot]

Yeah... I can see that too. I totally get you and Mr. Scot's point. It might be too early to talk about pulling him while he's playing so well.

But, damn I'm scared this kid will get hurt playing behind this incredibly subpar oline.

I'm in the DC area, and the recent RG3 fiasco has me very worried about Cam.

Cam definitely isn't RG3.

He's certainly not indestructible, but he's not fragile either.

[heel31ok]

He would lose a lot of respect. Specially with players who are playing thru their injuries. How can Cam look another guy in the face and asked him to leave it all on the field if he isn't willing to do it.

 The players know when it is right to sit and if that is what is needed there will be no loss of face for anyone.

[WOW!!]

so we want Cam to play through a punctured lung. No, we want him to be healthy and not make things worse.

No we want him to do what we would ask any other player to do.

If he was playing bad throwing int's not reading the defense and not moving thr team you would have a point.

But at this time his play is not the reason we're losing. Hus injuries are not holding this offense back. So sitting him when his play isn't hurting the team. Would be seen as a move to put his health and safety over the other 52 players in that locker room. How can you be just one of the guys if that standard is set?

[greghardy'sAK-47]

He's not playing bad. So if you sit him it's a clear sign you have given up on the season. And that you clearly take away his ability to motivate a team when other players are injured and still asked to play.

i agree.  newton's looked really good when he gets time. when he doesn't though he has the worst % in the league under pressure.  

 

anyway, cam's not any other player.  he's a franchise caliber qb.  look at the schedule.  if the oline can't get it turned around, or cam doesn't start taking pain meds and running for his life like he once did, then he's gonna get killed out there.  newton just isn't confident enough getting the ball out fast at this stage in his career.  probably because he's always had the option to run when things broke down.  now that he doesn't have that, cam is taking some sick hits.  i have no trust in that oline to keep cam safe.  just rolling the dice every time he goes out there.  having no starting caliber RBs left just means the ds are going to be getting after it all that much more.

[WOW!!]

The players know when it is right to sit and if that is what is needed there will be no loss of face for anyone.[/quote

If he is hurting the team??

But he is not.

His play compare to the other problem on this team is a bright spot.

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[heel31ok]

No we want him to do what we would ask any other player to do.

If he was playing bad throwing int's not reading the defense and not moving thr team you would have a point.

But at this time his play is not the reason we're losing. Hus injuries are not holding this offense back. So sitting him when his play isn't hurting the team. Would be seen as a move to put his health and safety over the other 52 players in that locker room. How can you be just one of the guys if that standard is set?

 

I never said it is why we are losing .If  his injuries are putting him at risk then  I do not hold to some bullcrap macho code if it is going to make things worse. It is like I said, the players know if it is a real thing or just a prima donna act.

 

[WOW!!]

i agree. newton's looked really good when he gets time. when he doesn't though he has the worst % in the league under pressure.

anyway, cam's not any other player. he's a franchise caliber qb. look at the schedule. if the oline can't get it turned around, or cam doesn't start taking pain meds and running for his life like he once did, then he's gonna get killed out there. newton just isn't confident enough getting the ball out fast at this stage in his career. probably because he's always had the option to run when things broke down. now that he doesn't have that, cam is taking some sick hits. i have no trust in that oline to keep cam safe. just rolling the dice every time he goes out there. having no starting caliber RBs left just means the ds are going to be getting after it all that much more.

Dude he is in the top 15 of the league at getting the ball out this year. So that info is wrong.

He is the best option at QB no matter what you some think and sitting him would be a outright sign that you gave up on the year.

[iamhubby1]

Yeah... I can see that too. I totally get you and Mr. Scot's point. It might be too early to talk about pulling him while he's playing so well.

 

But, damn I'm scared this kid will get hurt playing behind this incredibly subpar oline. 

 

I'm in the DC area, and the recent RG3 fiasco has me very worried about Cam.

A lot of folks are thinking the same way you are. They are worried there franchise QB could wind up missing the rest of the season. The truth is, it is possible. But it is also possible if he were 100% healthy.

He may not be 100%, but he is healthy enough, playing well enough, and has the backing of the powers that be. Let Cam do what he does. IMO, if he were in any danger, he wouldn't be playing.

 

 

so we want Cam to play through a punctured lung. No, we want him to be healthy and not make things worse.

I don't want to seem like I am "That guy", but, way to go overboard to make a point.

There are numerous posts from folks stating the IF Cam were in any danger of making his injuries worse, he would probably not be playing. NOBODY in the Panther Organization would be willing to lose Cam for any significant time if there were any questions about his health.

He is dinged up, yes. But the folks making the decision to let him play are fully behind said decision. The ONLY ones worried over Cam, are the fans.

He isn't 100%. But if there were any major concerns over his long term health. He wouldn't be playing.

Cam wants to play. The coaches and medical staff are allowing him on the field. No issues from me. Let the kid play.

[heel31ok]

if he is hurting himself and he is. He is taking more shots and harder shots. It is not about whether he is hurting the team now but how the team will really be hurt if he goes down for a long period of time or, heaven forbid, if he is knocked out for the season.

[WOW!!]

I never said it is why we are losing .If his injuries are putting him at risk then I do not hold to some bullcrap macho code if it is going to make things worse. It is like I said, the players know if it is a real thing or just a prima donna act.

You can't asked other to do it and give Cam a pass then asked them to respect and follow him. As a leader he has to show leadership in good and bad times. It's not a macho code it's football. Guy have been doing it for 60 something years.

[heel31ok]

A lot of folks are thinking the same way you are. They are worried there franchise QB could wind up missing the rest of the season. The truth is, it is possible. But it is also possible if he were 100% healthy.

He may not be 100%, but he is healthy enough, playing well enough, and has the backing of the powers that be. Let Cam do what he does. IMO, if he were in any danger, he wouldn't be playing.

 

 

I don't want to seem like I am "That guy", but, way to go overboard to make a point.

There are numerous posts from folks stating the IF Cam were in any danger of making his injuries worse, he would probably not be playing. NOBODY in the Panther Organization would be willing to lose Cam for any significant time if there were any questions about his health.

He is dinged up, yes. But the folks making the decision to let him play are fully behind said decision. The ONLY ones worried over Cam, are the fans.

He isn't 100%. But if there were any major concerns over his long term health. He wouldn't be playing.

Cam wants to play. The coaches and medical staff are allowing him on the field. No issues from me. Let the kid play.

 it may have been overboard but I just took the example that was already given.

 

 yes I am worried he could get hurt worse and it is obvious he is not as mobile right now so the chances are way higher of getting hurt worse than if he were 100%.

[Tub of Goo]

if he is hurting himself and he is. He is taking more shots and harder shots. It is not about whether he is hurting the team now but how the team will really be hurt if he goes down for a long period of time or, heaven forbid, if he is knocked out for the season.

But he's healthy enough to play. He could get hurt when he's completely healthy too.

What message does that send to other players that are playing banged up? How is Cam supposed to be the leader we need him to be if he's on the bench but can still play?

You can't afford to be that cautious unless you already want to throw in the towel on this season. And Cam is definitely not going to do that.

[WOW!!]

if he is hurting himself and he is. He is taking more shots and harder shots. It is not about whether he is hurting the team now but how the team will really be hurt if he goes down for a long period of time or, heaven forbid, if he is knocked out for the season.

But as a leader it can't be just about him. He as the leader of the team has to even more put his needs under the needs of the team.

And until his injuries are hurting the total goals of the team or he isn't the best QB on the team in all situation then he has to play.

[Sloth]

To anyone coming at this from a "I'm afraid Newton is going to get broken in half, we need to protect the long term investment" angle, I get you. I disagree, but I understand where you're coming from. You're getting lumped in with the folks who are hoping Anderson comes in and takes the job, which isn't really fair. We cool.

 

Anyone coming from the "Anderson is better" angle, I don't know what you're actually watching and am pretty sure most of you are seizing what you see as an opportunity to get rid of/bench Cam. Or trolling. You're never going to get that NCAA season back where $CAM broke your team in half. Sorry! Just speaking of performance, he's been very good as a pocket passer this year. His accuracy is great, he's yet to throw an INT, he's showing a nice mix of howitzers and touch balls and he's doing it with less of a run game and defense than Anderson had when he lucked out on a win in Tampa. You know it. Hell the media knows it, which is saying something. Prove that Anderson is a better player or stop wasting time on troll posts/threads.