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Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

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footballisasport Newbie

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Wow, you make it seem as though I've said "Cam sucks and he's why this team sucks". Why are you so defensive? You can agree or not, but no need to be so defensive. And you will not kill Cam Newton's confidence by sitting him when he's hurt. That's absurd. Sitting him for a week or two while he heals could actually be good for him. 

 

And for the record, I actually think he's a better passer right now than last year. I just don't like to see him back there taking hits from d linemen that he would normally run away from. 

 

LOL...So get on your O-line's case and let Cam play his game. 

 

U are now accusing me of being defensive because I am not sharing your viewpoint? Give me some a real rational reason to bench Cam beside, I don't want him hurt and I will give u a slide. 

 

And it shows that u are not paying that much attention expect in a shallow way to what Cam is doing., He is pretty much playing the same way as last season as he is this. The only difference is, last year folks like u were busy blaming him for every receiver's miis-drops. If he over threw a couple of balls, that was all you folks were talking about, even if the team won.

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Let's try this again.

 

He's not saying Cam deserves to be benched.  Players get benched because of poor performance.  If you read what he's actually written, he praises Cam's performance quite profusely.

 

Sitting a player down for his protection is not the same as 'benching', and in fact it's already happened more than once this season.

 

For the week one game against the Bucs, Newton was completely deactivated because the staff believed the risk of injury was too great to put him out there and risk further damage.  This was done to protect him, not punish him.

 

Likewise, Newton has been pulled from both of the past two contests late in the game when we were down by a lot.  In neither case was it performance related.  It was done because the coaching staff felt it was pointless to leave him in there and risk injury when the games were a lost cause.

 

Again, they were protecting him, not punishing him.

 

Navy Football and the OP believe Newton's injuries are severe enough that the wisest decision would be to do the same thing they did in week one for a few more games.  In other words, let him rest and heal up instead of risking further damage. And just like each of the three times Newton has been held out of games so far, the idea would be to protect him, not punish him.

 

It's most certainly not an endorsement of Derek Anderson.  Just the opposite actually.  They're willing to throw Anderson to the wolves because they consider him replaceable.  Newton, on the other hand, isn't.

 

Overall, I disagree that this is the best move in the current situation, but again, I understand why they think it's the wise choice.  They believe this would be in Cam's best interest overall.   As someone who has both played and coached football, I've seen numerous examples of guys going back out on the field when they really shouldn't have.  The most recent example: RG3, whose career may wind up being cut short because of it.

 

You wanna see that happen to Cam?  I don't, but I don't think we're to that point yet.  Others do.

 

The idea behind that is based in long-term, big picture thinking.  Until you can grasp that, you're just not gonna get it.

 

That is as complete an explanation as I can give.  If you don't understand after reading that, you probably never will.

 

Thank you sir. I guess I assumed that others had read all comments instead of only the last one or two. Great synopsis. That is truly my point and I'm sure the OP would share the sentiment. 

 

Not sure why some get so defensive when they hear anything semi-negative towards Cam when we all love the young man. 

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We need to change OC and get a new philosophy on offense.

 

Agreed.

 

Rivera, just doesn't get it sometimes.

 

In 2012, after Cam's banner rookie season, they changed much of the offense to emphasize the Read Option, feeling it was the way to go, despite Cam's stats being better from  under center, and all he did with conventional offenses and two TE sets.

 

Then, after 1 1/2 seasons of good defense, the team starts believing the defense and the Crappy "Never was" run game and blocking that Cam has made look good the past several seasons, was all world.

 

The team, should have built a balanced offense (or at least a legit OC) to run or pass well as all good OC's do.

 

SMH

 

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LOL...So get on your O-line's case and let Cam play his game. 

 

U are now accusing me of being defensive because I am not sharing your viewpoint? Give me some a real rational reason to bench Cam beside, I don't want him hurt and I will give u a slide. 

 

And it shows that u are not paying that much attention expect in a shallow way to what Cam is doing., He is pretty much playing the same way as last season as he is this. The only difference is, last year folks like u were busy blaming him for every receiver's miis-drops. If he over threw a couple of balls, that was all you folks were talking about, even if the team won.

 

So how is benching or getting on the oline gonna make them better at protecting our franchise QB, when he's not moving well enough to protect himself?

 

And Cam is not playing the same as last year. Are you serious? Did you see the plays he made against the Patriots, eluding defenders to make passes downfield? He is not the same as we've seen him - ever. 

 

Please stop lumping my comments with every one else you may have issue with. Take my comments for what they are - at face value. I say what I mean. No reason to allude to anything on an internet forum. 

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Why do some panther fans refuse to support Cam? Derek Anderson is good, but he is not even close to the player Cam is. No serious football person could ever think he is. Did you see some of the throws cam made today under constant pressure?? With all due respect to Luke, Cam is the best and most important player on the team. If he can play, he should be out there.

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I truly believe Cam is the best QB on the team. However, Anderson is the better QB for a ball control offense.

 

Does last year not exist? Cam excelled at the ball control offense. The o-line though has regressed and our rb's are hurt. Most people that are pining over Anderson are basing it off of one game against a horrible team and a couple of nice throws when the game is already loss. Stop saying stupid crap. 

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Let's try this again.

 

He's not saying Cam deserves to be benched.  Players get benched because of poor performance.  If you read what he's actually written, he praises Cam's performance quite profusely.

 

Sitting a player down for his protection is not the same as 'benching', and in fact it's already happened more than once this season.

 

For the week one game against the Bucs, Newton was completely deactivated because the staff believed the risk of injury was too great to put him out there and risk further damage.  This was done to protect him, not punish him.

 

Likewise, Newton has been pulled from both of the past two contests late in the game when we were down by a lot.  In neither case was it performance related.  It was done because the coaching staff felt it was pointless to leave him in there and risk injury when the games were a lost cause.

 

Again, they were protecting him, not punishing him.

 

Navy Football and the OP believe Newton's injuries are severe enough that the wisest decision would be to do the same thing they did in week one for a few more games.  In other words, let him rest and heal up instead of risking further damage. And just like each of the three times Newton has been held out of games so far, the idea would be to protect him, not punish him.

 

It's most certainly not an endorsement of Derek Anderson.  Just the opposite actually.  They're willing to throw Anderson to the wolves because they consider him replaceable.  Newton, on the other hand, isn't.

 

Overall, I disagree that this is the best move in the current situation, but again, I understand why they think it's the wise choice.  They believe this would be in Cam's best interest overall.   As someone who has both played and coached football, I've seen numerous examples of guys going back out on the field when they really shouldn't have.  The most recent example: RG3, whose career may wind up being cut short because of it.

 

You wanna see that happen to Cam?  I don't, but I don't think we're to that point yet.  Others do.

 

The idea behind that is based in long-term, big picture thinking.  Until you can grasp that, you're just not gonna get it.

 

That is as complete an explanation as I can give.  If you don't understand after reading that, you probably never will.

They deactivate Cam because he wasn't fully cleared by the doctors. Rivers made that decision. It seems since then folks like Navy have been filling these threads of with artificial concern about Cam's health. 

 

Also, there are many QBs out there who aren't  playing at 100%. Drew Brees is one of them.  Right now he's limping. I wonder if the Saint's fan want him to sit until he's 100%. 

 

And, u know darn well that some  of the same Panthers fans really do think they r slick with the artificial concern about Cam. i though Football was for men? Sitting Cam because he's not 100 and u don't want him hurt behind yourO-line, sounds all sincere but everyone knows that the same folks who want to sit Cam will turn around and label him weak and unfit to lead because he can't handle the pressure. 

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They deactivate Cam because he wasn't fully cleared by the doctors. Rivers made that decision. It seems since then folks like Navy have been filling these threads of with artificial concern about Cam's health. 

 

Also, there are many QBs out there who aren't  playing at 100%. Drew Brees is one of them.  Right now he's limping. I wonder if the Saint's fan want him to sit until he's 100%. 

 

And, u know darn well that some  of the same Panthers fans really do think they r slick with the artificial concern about Cam. i though Football was for men? Sitting Cam because he's not 100 and u don't want him hurt behind yourO-line, sounds all sincere but everyone knows that the same folks who want to sit Cam will turn around and label him weak and unfit to lead because he can't handle the pressure. 

 

Newton was cleared to play as of August 10th.

 

It's not 'artificial concern'.  He wants Newton running the team for the next decade but is worried about what a major injury does to those prospects.

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They deactivate Cam because he wasn't fully cleared by the doctors. Rivers made that decision. It seems since then folks like Navy have been filling these threads of with artificial concern about Cam's health. 

 

Also, there are many QBs out there who aren't  playing at 100%. Drew Brees is one of them.  Right now he's limping. I wonder if the Saint's fan want him to sit until he's 100%. 

 

And, u know darn well that some  of the same Panthers fans really do think they r slick with the artificial concern about Cam. i though Football was for men? Sitting Cam because he's not 100 and u don't want him hurt behind yourO-line, sounds all sincere but everyone knows that the same folks who want to sit Cam will turn around and label him weak and unfit to lead because he can't handle the pressure. 

 

Unless you want to? Please stop having endless discussions with people who seem to only be pulling your leg, trying to get a rise out of you, and/or only prolong a silly discussion for their bemusement.

 

Most Panther fans don't believe in sitting Newton, now or in the future (especially for Derek Anderson), unless he's severely hurt. And that doesn't appear to be the case. Rivera was very upbeat on Cam's health, prospects, and the way he was throwing the ball this week, before the game today. End of Story.

 

The team, just needs to fix their play calling and offensive line issues, or Fire Shula, and Rivera if they have to (though this may seem severe to many).

 

This is all a red herring, tempest in a teapot if you ask me.

 

So don't be trolled.

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I am beginning to think that Navy and Mr Scott are one and the same.

 

I am watching the Saints and a limping Drew Brees. Something tells me there is no intentions to sit him. 

No team in their right mind would even entertain sitting, or benching their starting QB because he's not 100%. NONE!!! 

 

This discussion was fun but clearly baseless and I am done with it. GN

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