Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

[Navy_football]

Funny, Rivera was on the radio before the game, sounding very upbeat about Cam's health and the way he was throwing the ball.

 

Judging by how well Cam looked form the pocket, I can see why. Cam looked very good out there, as he has all season (regardless of what the team is doing around him). 

 

The whole idea of sitting him cause he's not fully healthy, and/or the team sucks 4 games into the season, or a few more, is the height of lunacy, and makes you wonder if some here have an agenda? The irony is; Cam is throwing the ball better from the pocket--right now--in his current state better than Anderson.

 

There's an ebb and flow to an NFL season, and you can't always have things go swimmingly all year. Good teams and coaches, fix their problems, and hope to turn it around. Not give up!

 

So we either have a bunch of losers, or closet/passive aggressive Cam haters in the fan base??

 

SMH

 

Well i for one have no anti-Cam agenda. I think Cam is a once in a lifetime talent. But not while he's not able to get out of harm's way. 

[OnlyPantherFaninMaine]

This thread sucks.

[Navy_football]

Well, unless he is a doctor, or has spoken with Newton, Rivera, or the medical staff personally, I put virtually no stock in that. It's an opinion.

 

So you think Cam is moving around as well as he should be? 

 

Unless you know what Cam is thinking/feeling, then I put no stock in your opinion. Cam wanted to play in the first game. He was cleared then as well. Rivera made Cam sit that game as well because he needed the time to heal. 

 

Just as I'm typing this, I see Romo running up the middle for 20 yards after the pocket collapsed around him. It's not a bad thing if a QB can run. Doesn't mean he can't pass as well. 

[IGSaint]

So you think Cam is moving around as well as he should be? 

 

Unless you know what Cam is thinking/feeling, then I put no stock in your opinion. Cam wanted to play in the first game. He was cleared then as well. Rivera made Cam sit that game as well because he needed the time to heal. 

 

Just as I'm typing this, I see Romo running up the middle for 20 yards after the pocket collapsed around him. It's not a bad thing if a QB can run. Doesn't mean he can't pass as well. 

 

The team is playing him that means they believe he can play well. And they have medical doctors that they listen to just in case. Unless Cam can't literally walk without being in pain then he can play. Plenty of QB's in the nfl and in the past have played while being limited in some way. I honestly think this whole sit Cam for Anderson thing is some backhanded slight against Cam because people believe that Anderson can carry this team's offense even though we have zero run game and a bad OL. It's ridiculous. 

[Navy_football]

So u're simply sympathizing with a Navy's over-the-top reaction of Cam's soreness not because u accept his rational but understand his concern. 

 

I would accept his concern if he gave some real answers to solving the teams issues beside bench Cam who can play except for some soreness, and stick Anderson behind the same pathetic O-line. It sounds more like he's trying to kill the self esteem of two QBs with one stone.  Bench the starting QB, who is playing just as good now as he was last season, minus the ability to run as fast, and kill his self esteem. And replace him with a QB who has to handle the same O-line issues that cause Cam to get injured in the first place, so he to can get injured. 

 

Oh, and I Pied u because ur defense of Navy is if  nothing else, quite interesting. 

 

Wow, you make it seem as though I've said "Cam sucks and he's why this team sucks". Why are you so defensive? You can agree or not, but no need to be so defensive. And you will not kill Cam Newton's confidence by sitting him when he's hurt. That's absurd. Sitting him for a week or two while he heals could actually be good for him. 

 

And for the record, I actually think he's a better passer right now than last year. I just don't like to see him back there taking hits from d linemen that he would normally run away from. 

[Piff]

Cam is the last player I'm worried about. He has been playing good considering the circumstances.

[Navy_football]

The team is playing him that means they believe he can play well. And they have medical doctors that they listen to just in case. Unless Cam can't literally walk without being in pain then he can play. Plenty of QB's in the nfl and in the past have played while being limited in some way. I honestly think this whole sit Cam for Anderson thing is some backhanded slight against Cam because people believe that Anderson can carry this team's offense even though we have zero run game and a bad OL. It's ridiculous. 

 

Well that ain't me. My entire point is about Cam being too hurt to protect himself. Nothing to do with Anderson. I think Cam needs to heal. 

 

Understand that it's just pain, not injury. But whatever it is, he is not moving well enough for a pocket passing QB. You know QBs that avoid the rush up the middle and run away from DTs...

[shelbypanther]

Cam has been hit more than any other QB in the past three seasons.  Keep that up and we'll be looking for his replacement in 2017 if not sooner.

[Navy_football]

Cam has been hit more than any other QB in the past three seasons.  Keep that up and we'll be looking for his replacement in 2017 if not sooner.

 

True statement. And I'll add, the hits he's taking now are just ridiculous. He can't get out of the way when the line breaks down.

[IGSaint]

Well that ain't me. My entire point is about Cam being too hurt to protect himself. Nothing to do with Anderson. I think Cam needs to heal. 

 

Understand that it's just pain, not injury. But whatever it is, he is not moving well enough for a pocket passing QB. You know QBs that avoid the rush up the middle and run away from DTs...

 

As has been said many times, Rivera and the panthers medical staff don't think Cam will be fully healed till February. So you want to sit our franchise QB the whole season because he's limited, sore and is not moving around the pocket well enough according to you guys who want anderson? I still think that's ridiculous. It's not like Anderson even scored that much in the Bucs game to think he is so much greater in the pocket vs Cam. The team scored 20 points against the Bucs and that was even with the dropped INT that would have gave Anderson that loss. Anderson isn't so much greater than Cam in the pocket healthy that this thread needs to be created or that you need to defend your point so hard. 

[SCMunnerlyn1]

I truly believe Cam is the best QB on the team. However, Anderson is the better QB for a ball control offense.

[Kakarot]

I've been against starting Anderson from the start, but its a definite hell no now after seeing these other NFC South teams play.  We're still in this thing.  We can get this turned around.

[CRA]

I truly believe Cam is the best QB on the team. However, Anderson is the better QB for a ball control offense.

Cam has zero INTs, his worse game on the season is a 94 QB rating. He is playing good ball. Nothing suggests DA is better than what Cam is doing

[Mr. Scot]

So u're simply sympathizing with a Navy's over-the-top reaction of Cam's soreness not because u accept his rational but understand his concern. 

 

I would accept his concern if he gave some real answers to solving the teams issues beside bench Cam who can play except for some soreness, and stick Anderson behind the same pathetic O-line. It sounds more like he's trying to kill the self esteem of two QBs with one stone.  Bench the starting QB, who is playing just as good now as he was last season, minus the ability to run as fast, and kill his self esteem. And replace him with a QB who has to handle the same O-line issues that cause Cam to get injured in the first place, so he to can get injured. 

 

Oh, and I Pied u because ur defense of Navy is if  nothing else, quite interesting. 

 

Let's try this again.

 

He's not saying Cam deserves to be benched.  Players get benched because of poor performance.  If you read what he's actually written, he praises Cam's performance quite profusely.

 

Sitting a player down for his protection is not the same as 'benching', and in fact it's already happened more than once this season.

 

For the week one game against the Bucs, Newton was completely deactivated because the staff believed the risk of injury was too great to put him out there and risk further damage.  This was done to protect him, not punish him.

 

Likewise, Newton has been pulled from both of the past two contests late in the game when we were down by a lot.  In neither case was it performance related.  It was done because the coaching staff felt it was pointless to leave him in there and risk injury when the games were a lost cause.

 

Again, they were protecting him, not punishing him.

 

Navy Football and the OP believe Newton's injuries are severe enough that the wisest decision would be to do the same thing they did in week one for a few more games.  In other words, let him rest and heal up instead of risking further damage. And just like each of the three times Newton has been held out of games so far, the idea would be to protect him, not punish him.

 

It's most certainly not an endorsement of Derek Anderson.  Just the opposite actually.  They're willing to throw Anderson to the wolves because they consider him replaceable.  Newton, on the other hand, isn't.

 

Overall, I disagree that this is the best move in the current situation, but again, I understand why they think it's the wise choice.  They believe this would be in Cam's best interest overall.   As someone who has both played and coached football, I've seen numerous examples of guys going back out on the field when they really shouldn't have.  The most recent example: RG3, whose career may wind up being cut short because of it.

 

You wanna see that happen to Cam?  I don't, but I don't think we're to that point yet.  Others do.

 

The idea behind that is based in long-term, big picture thinking.  Until you can grasp that, you're just not gonna get it.

 

That is as complete an explanation as I can give.  If you don't understand after reading that, you probably never will.