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Report: Steve Smith asked to be released

MichaelNewtonII

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Keep trying, butthurt Panther fans....

If the team were to build a Mount Rushmore of Panther players- 4 of the best- tell me he wouldn't be there.

Just stop, you're all acting like your girlfriends just dumped you.

Depends when you built it.....today or in 20 years

Luke and Cam are on pace to be better. Then you got Mills as an X factor. 20 years is a long time.

You don't build a Mt Rushmore this early

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Keep trying, butthurt Panther fans....

If the team were to build a Mount Rushmore of Panther players- 4 of the best- tell me he wouldn't be there.

Just stop, you're all acting like your girlfriends just dumped you.

No one is saying he wouldn't be. He'd be the George Washington on the Panthers Mount Rushmore.

But just like the great founding fathers were slave owning racists, we can't ignore the awful parts of Steve Smith just because he used to be a great Panther.

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People like to pretend 89 didn't ask out after 2010...bc that would have made him like Pep(everyone favorite villain).

So again, 89 would never do that....would he?

Well, as I alluded to and as Voth just mentioned, Smitty asked for his release before the final act that actually resulted in it.

I wasn't saying it's impossible he asked for it, what I was implying is that, as I mentioned, he had done it before, and he may have done it again after he felt he was disrespected by Gettleman. When Smitty asked for a release/trade it was always because he felt cheated/slighted/disrespected. I don't blame him... he suffered through years of losing and dealing with inept management not getting him help and wasting years of his prime.

Ultimately, when he made a demand like that, I don't thi k he really meant it, but instead wanted to be pampered, reassured, and have his ego assauged that he was a key piece and they would get help around him.

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No one is saying he wouldn't be. He'd be the George Washington on the Panthers Mount Rushmore.

But just like the great founding fathers were slave owning racists, we can't ignore the awful parts of Steve Smith just because he used to be a great Panther.

You leave my hero Thomas Jefferson alone! He loved his unpaid assistants

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Well, as I alluded to and as Voth just mentioned, Smitty asked for his release before the final act that actually resulted in it.

I wasn't saying it's impossible he asked for it, what I was implying is that, as I mentioned, he had done it before, and he may have done it again after he felt he was disrespected by Gettleman. When Smitty asked for a release/trade it was always because he felt cheated/slighted/disrespected. I don't blame him... he suffered through years of losing and dealing with inept management not getting him help and wasting years of his prime.

Ultimately, when he made a demand like that, I don't thi k he really meant it, but instead wanted to be pampered, reassured, and have his ego assauged that he was a key piece and they would get help around him.

 

How did he suffer? Dude was getting paid to play. He was not playing for free. He signed those contracts.

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Well, as I alluded to and as Voth just mentioned, Smitty asked for his release before the final act that actually resulted in it.

I wasn't saying it's impossible he asked for it, what I was implying is that, as I mentioned, he had done it before, and he may have done it again after he felt he was disrespected by Gettleman. When Smitty asked for a release/trade it was always because he felt cheated/slighted/disrespected. I don't blame him... he suffered through years of losing and dealing with inept management not getting him help and wasting years of his prime.

Ultimately, when he made a demand like that, I don't thi k he really meant it, but instead wanted to be pampered, reassured, and have his ego assauged that he was a key piece and they would get help around him.

No one should feel bad for Smitty wanting to leave after 2010. He wasted away on awful teams.

The flip side to that argument though is that you can't blame the organization for wanting to move past an overpaid, mercurial little asshole once future stars started to emerge.

The problem is fans take a side and like Smith so much that when he wants to move on it's ok, when the organization wants to move on they are awful.

And despite what anyone thinks, the Panthers/Steve Smith divorce was not going to end well, unless Steve took a severe paycut and retired in a season or two, like Jordan Gross. So people can bitch about how he was unceremoniously dropped, but he wasn't going to just fade away quietly, and basically everything about the man confirms that.

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I think it's funny most of you guys rip Rapoport (or however he spells his dumb name) repeatedly whenever he writes something you don't want to see/hear. But as soon as he (or any other reporter) writes or says something that you like....you believe it with no questions asked.

 

Rapaport isn't too bad. I certainly wouldn't include him on a list of NFL writers I don't like. 

Adam Schein on the other hand....

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Well, as I alluded to and as Voth just mentioned, Smitty asked for his release before the final act that actually resulted in it.

I wasn't saying it's impossible he asked for it, what I was implying is that, as I mentioned, he had done it before, and he may have done it again after he felt he was disrespected by Gettleman. When Smitty asked for a release/trade it was always because he felt cheated/slighted/disrespected. I don't blame him... he suffered through years of losing and dealing with inept management not getting him help and wasting years of his prime.

Ultimately, when he made a demand like that, I don't thi k he really meant it, but instead wanted to be pampered, reassured, and have his ego assauged that he was a key piece and they would get help around him.

 

I trust Voth. He's doing a good job with the coverage but it seems like a lot of the stuff he puts out is after the fact. Shows that nobody outside of the team really knows whats going on. 

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Seems so many people did not pay attention in the off season, or selectively forgot what went down.

 

All the players were enjoying time off. Steve Smith was training and spending time with his family and community. Then along comes a press conference by the ever eloquent and charismatic Dave Gettleman. He states the support of several key players and how much he wants Gross back. Then when asked about Steve Smith (the greatest Panthers player in their young history), who was still running with the top players of the NFL at receiver and willing to take a reduced roll in a Shula passing attack, Gettleman saids Smith will be evaluated and his future would be determined. You do not say this about a franchise player. Gettleman made his decision a long time ago. Gross did not want to play for Gettleman and retired a year early.

 

Steve Smith made it a point to meet with Gettleman after his comments to find out their plan, and we all know Gettleman did not tell him the truth. It is Gettleman. He would lie to your face and tell you to fug off. Steve Smith upset with the teams loyalty to him after he stuck with Cam when Cam pleaded for Smith to stay in 2011. Smith should have taken care of himself and left back then. Instead he stayed with the Panthers and their rebuilding of the team.

 

You all forget too easily. I am sure Smith asked to be traded and then Gettleman after all this crap asked for Smith to restructure if he stayed. Good luck on that after how Gettleman handled it. Gettleman had a horrible dip in free agency this offseason. He struck out time and time again because of who he is.

 

Watch this in regard to how Gettleman feels about Smith's role on the team. 

 

I would have left a team who turned their back on me too. You wouldn't have?

 

This was a battle of egos between Gettleman and Smith, and Gettleman in a leadership role screwed up bad and let it get personal.

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