2014 Ryder Cup...... Yawn.....

[Anybodyhome]

Okay all you golfing Huddlers, weigh in on why the United States cannot seem to beat the Euros anymore.

 

Best I can see, the Euros want it more, they play with more fire and passion and it seems to mean a great deal more than it does to the Americans. Of course, if I had to wear the outfits some blind person designs for the Americans, I wouldn't be to excited to go out and draw attention to myself, either.

 

Looks like another ass-kicking that will conclude before the last 5-6 singles matches are done tomorrow.

[bigskypanthersguy]

not a golf fan by any means, but it's what I'm having to broadcast it at my day job; can't wait for Blood and Guts tomorrow to take my attention away.

[Darth Biscuit]

They have the talent right now...  and we just don't play match play very well.  

 

I don't get the decision to play Furyk/Mahan over Mickelson/Bradley today againts McIlroy/Garcia.  That was a loss waiting to happen imo.

 

I'll be surprised if we get within 5 points now...  

[SuperLego5]

Thinks getting a bit close now.

[Carolina Husker]

Spieth giving away this match will be the death knell.

[Anybodyhome]

The Americans probably need to rethink their entire approach to playing this tournament. Seems they're simply over-thinking everything while the Euros play aggressive and go flag hunting every hole.

[Kevin Greene]

Tis the season to play golf, not watch it.

[SuperLego5]

The Americans probably need to rethink their entire approach to playing this tournament. Seems they're simply over-thinking everything while the Euros play aggressive and go flag hunting every hole.

 

We obviously get very biased reporting over her but the general feeling is that the European team is a lot more together than the American team. There was an interview today before the matches and it gave the impression that Mickelson is hell to work with.

[Kevin Greene]

What an embarrassment Michelson is to the USA.

The whispers of what a douche he is away from the camera and fans comes to light.

 

 

Shortly after the U.S. had slipped to yet another Ryder Cup defeat by Europe on Sunday, Mickelson told a news conference his captain had not engaged with the players and should have stuck with the system that worked so successfully in 2008.

Both Montgomerie and Faldo responded by saying that Mickelson, a former world number two, should have kept his thoughts to himself.

"Should we go into this one hour after we've been defeated? The answer is a flat no," Montgomerie, who captained Europe to Ryder Cup victory at Celtic Manor in 2010, said on Golf Channel.

"You support your captain under all circumstances. In public, you respect and honour your captain.

"The PGA of America selected Tom Watson as the best choice to try to win the Ryder Cup back. Unfortunately, the team didn't perform for Tom."

Faldo, a losing Ryder Cup captain at Valhalla in 2008 when his American counterpart, Paul Azinger, achieved success with his "pod" system of four groups of three players who practised and played together, agreed.

"That should have been a private conversation," said Faldo. "Phil certainly doesn't respect Tom Watson. He threw his captain right under the bus."

Montgomerie implied that the importance of the captain at a Ryder Cup was overrated.

"The Europeans happened to play better (at Gleneagles), it's as simple as that," said Montgomerie.

"I think Tom Watson did the best with (what) he had. It doesn't matter who captains a team really. It's up to the players to bring back those points."

FRUSTRATED FIGURE

Mickelson, who has now lost eight of his 10 Ryder Cups, was a frustrated figure during the U.S. team's news conference at Gleneagles while he praised the successful strategy adopted by Azinger in 2008.

"Paul Azinger got everybody invested in the process," said Mickelson. "We use that same process in the President's Cup and we do really well.

"Unfortunately, we have strayed from that for the last three Ryder Cups and we need to consider maybe getting back to that formula that helped us play our best."

Chamblee immediately piled the criticism upon Mickelson.

"That was as close to a one-man mutiny as I ever seen," Chamblee said on Golf Channel. "I think that's a moment that Phil would like to have back.

"If you are looking for a reason why the United States continues to lose, you just saw it, you saw it in one man -- Phil Mickelson.

"Phil Mickelson, along with the best players of that era, have so corrupted the experience of the Ryder Cup for their fellow competitors by not having records anywhere near what they should, given their rank in the game and what they've achieved."

Mickelson, a five-time major champion, now has a win-loss-half record of 16-19-6 from his 10 Ryder Cups.

"Players of an era who are the best go to the Ryder Cup and show off, not goof off," said Chamblee. "Phil Mickelson in 2004 changed clubs at the Ryder Cup, the week of, and the day before he went to practise at another golf course.

"This is yet another example of (Americans) not coming together as team."

Montgomerie wondered why Mickelson had been the only player on the 12-man U.S. team who did not travel on the chartered jet to Scotland last week.

"I have a big problem with that," Montgomerie said. "The team should fly as a 12. We have to start out as we want to finish, as a team." (Reporting by Andrew Both in Cary, North Carolina; Editing by Mark Lamport-Stokes)

 

[Anybodyhome]

What an embarrassment Michelson is to the USA.

The whispers of what a douche he is away from the camera and fans comes to light.

 

Yep, Phil Mickelson alone is the reason the United States can't win this tournament. And let's not mention the fact several other tour players echoed his sentiments on Twitter yesterday as well. Conveniently leave those out of the conversation in order to make Mickelson look like more of the bad guy.

 

You should probably have included the entire presser transcript because when I watched it I saw frustration coming from every member of the team who spoke and your selected article clip simply quotes Chamblee and Montgomerie's opinions. I've already read 3 or 4 other articles showing support of Phil Mickelson's assessment of Watson's leadership and decision making.

 

8 of the last 10 Ryder Cups have been won by the Euros... and it's all Mickelson's fault. Go with that if it works for you.

[Cuttinedge]

USA players just trying to find a scapegoat to justify their crappy play Tom Watson didn't miss a putt or blast a 60degree over the green on 18 like mahan did. Several Americans choked on the last few holes while leading their matches yesterday. Their choking had nothing to do with watsons captain skills. Phil's just running his mouth cause he got sat out all day Saturday and he finally won a singles match against a unknown European. Lord knows all these losses ain't Phil's fault either he has plenty of help from furyk and mahan and now bubba

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[Bob NC]

I think the biggest problem with the play of the USA team has to do with the majors.

 

You can't watch a PGA tournament on tv for 5 minutes without hearing the word "Major"

 

Our players gear themselves up for them.  Tiger has flat out said that his yearly schedule is layed out with ONE goal in mind:  To peak 4 weeks a year at the majors. 

 

Players used to play 35 weeks a year.  Now their schedule is to practice - Play 2 tournaments to get sharp - practice for a week - go to the Major.

 

In addition to gearing up for FOUR IMPORTANT weeks a year, we have now added 4 weeks of FEDEX Cup play.  Followed immediately by the Ryder Cup.

 

After the Ryder Cup, the US schedule is virtually over except for silly season tournaments. 

 

The Euros still have 4 important tournaments over the next 2 months.  They are in the middle of their important season when ours was really over 5 weeks ago.

 

I personally don't think the Ryder Cup is as important to the USA team as it is to the Euro team, (No matter what they say).  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

What are you going to prioritize?  Majors that come with a boatload of money on and off the course & Immortality, or, a team tournament that pays nothing and really does little except as an addendum on your resume?

[Anybodyhome]

So... maybe it wasn't all Phil Mickelson as some would want us to believe...

 

http://espn.go.com/golf/rydercup14/story/_/id/11636089/captain-tom-watson-ripped-us-team-ryder-cup-meeting-angering-phil-mickelson

 

Phil Mickelson's candid and blunt assessment of U.S. Ryder Cup fortunes last Sunday night at Gleneagles was in response to, among other things, captain Tom Watson's approach to what was supposed to be a Saturday night team-bonding session that turned ugly, sources told ESPN.com this week.

Four sources who witnessed the proceedings in the U.S. team room at the Gleneagles Hotel said that Watson took no responsibility for any shortcomings, scoffed at a gift that the U.S. team members gave him, ridiculed several European team players and started the proceedings by denigrating the Americans' play that afternoon.

"You could have heard a pin drop in that room,'' one of those in attendance said. "He was pissed. It all went from there.''

 

Despite the 10-6 deficit, the U.S. team was fairly upbeat Saturday evening looking ahead to the Sunday singles, the pairings for which had just been announced. Fresh in the players' minds was the fact that Europe had come back from the same margin two years earlier at Medinah. And two players in the room, Mickelson and Jim Furyk, were on the 1999 U.S. team that also came back from that score on the final day at The Country Club in Brookline.

They gathered in the Team Room that night -- a hotel ballroom at the lavish Gleneagles Hotel with TVs, ping-pong tables, food and drink. They were joined by their wives or girlfriends (except for Fowler), as well as their caddies and their significant others. Some of the hotel staff were in the room, as were a few members of the PGA of America staff on hand. In all, more than 40 people were there when Watson returned to the Team Room after speaking to the media about the Sunday pairings.

 

Watson started by saying, according to all of the sources: "You stink at foursomes.''

 

After praising the rookie team of Patrick Reed and Jordan Spieth, Watson went through the Sunday singles pairings and ridiculed several members of the European side as he went through the matchups. Soon after, Watson was presented a gift by Furyk, a replica of the Ryder Cup trophy that was signed by every member of the team. Instead of thanking them, the sources said Watson said the gift meant nothing to him if the players didn't get the real Ryder Cup on Sunday and that he wanted to be holding it aloft on the green in victory.

 

Said one of the sources: "That's almost verbatim. He said it basically means nothing to me.''

Added another: "It was fairly shocking that he treated this thoughtful gift with such disdain.''