6 years, $150,250,000, $54,000,000 guaranteed, Projected contract for Cam

[jasonluckydog]

I meant as elite as Manning. When you mention the best Manning/Brady come up 1st in conversation in a couple of years people will be saying that about Cam.

[tiger7_88]

We can throw a ton of money at him, but the real question comes down to whether Cam wants to continue to play for us and sees a future.  Does he want to be The Face of The Panthers for years to come, retire with a statue out front and his name on the stadium deck next to Sam's?

 

Or is he only in it for the money (and only for the money)?

There's something to be said for players who feel respected by an organization and beloved by fans enough to be reasonable in contract negotiations knowing that they're going to be settled in once place for the next 5-15 years.  Raise a family, become synonymous with the community and the franchise.  Get a street around the stadium named after him.

 

 

BE the Panthers, in the same manner Favre (for the most part) WAS the Green Bay Packers.  (Or Tom Brady, Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Dan Marino... players whose names alone indicate the team that they loved to play for)

 

There's always something to be said for loyalty, from both the team's front office viewpoint as well as the fans.

 

 

Because Cam's given every indication that he's not dedicated to the organization and the Charlotte community, right?

[tiger7_88]

Because Cam has not proven to win in the clutch.

There is a chance we could be strapping the franchise and Cam never deliver post season results.

I think Cam will do that soon. But there is a chance.

I would prefer to wait to pay him mega bucks until he takes that next level

 

 

 

 

[carpanfan96]

Because Cam has not proven to win in the clutch.

There is a chance we could be strapping the franchise and Cam never deliver post season results.

I think Cam will do that soon. But there is a chance.

I would prefer to wait to pay him mega bucks until he takes that next level

4 comeback wins/GWD last season plus his what he did in college shows clutch performances.

[MedellinHeel]

4 comeback wins/GWD last season plus his what he did in college shows clutch performances.

 

College and the pros are a different beast. See The Golden Calf of Bristol. 

 

When I say clutch I mean in the playoffs. 

 

Cam simply hasn't shown that acumen yet. 

 

I fully expect him to this year tbt. 

[IGSaint]

College and the pros are a different beast. See The Golden Calf of Bristol. 

 

When I say clutch I mean in the playoffs. 

 

Cam simply hasn't shown that acumen yet. 

 

I fully expect him to this year tbt. 

 

You are using playoff clutchness as a precursor to a good contract when no gm in the league does that. As long as the QB is a franchise QB as Cam is he will get paid. There are plenty of qb's in the top15 right now who have no playoff clutchness in their resume but still got paid. I don't know why this point is not making it across to you but you need to acknowledge reality. Cam may again lose in the playoff first round this year but it won't affect his contract at all. If you want that to change you need to try your hardest to get a job as a gm and put a requirement for year 4 qb's to be clutch in the playoffs to get a contract otherwise you are speaking a whole lot of nothing lol. 

[beastson]

Cam projected contract and the thread goes 20 pages. Im not even going to waste time going through this one

[tiger7_88]

I swear some of these posters just sit around and jerk off to pictures of this man. Talk to a million other people in the Carolinas that don't make 300 posts a month on this board and you'll get completely different opinions. The "homer ism" here is out of this world. "Greatest QB of ALL TIME," "Greatest skill-set in NFL history." Are you people for real? I'm a Panthers fan. Not a Cam fan; As are 95% of people at BOA on Sundays.

 

Excellent QB? I agree. Worth that much money? Debatable. Worth it if it damages the team as a whole? Absolutely not. 

 

That's all I had to say.

 

 

Thanks for your input, Mr. Crow, first name James.

[Car123]

Peyton didn't win a playoff game until his sixth season.

Some of you in this thread would have cut him before that.

[FootballMaestro]

Not about where he is at now, it is about where he could be in a few years.

I will never take my black and blue shades off. You should put some on

 

Ironically, Newton's been rated #8 by NFL.com to start the season, and was picked as a top 25 player (with what 5 QB's in front of him) the end of last season?

 

This season's just started. So I find his post strident tone humorous.

[DatsMyQuarterback]

I swear some of our fans treat Cam the same way that the national media does.

In 2011/12 when we lost a bunch of close games that we shoulda won and the media pretty much blamed Cam and only Cam. They refused to acknowledge that Cam and the offense had done all they could to get a 4th quarter lead but the D couldn't hold on to it bc of the weak spots on defense. Even 2012's 10th overall in total D was misleading bc their 4th qtr points/yards were near the bottom of the league but never mentioned after close losses.

Now that the FO has built up the defense to help the offense instead of vice versa all of a sudden Cam's value to this squad has dropped in some ppl's opinion bc they think the D is doing everything and Cam just has to be Trent Dilfer and NOT fug up the game. Go defense.....ooops i meant go Panthers.

[Ruff]

You are using playoff clutchness as a precursor to a good contract when no gm in the league does that. As long as the QB is a franchise QB as Cam is he will get paid. There are plenty of qb's in the top15 right now who have no playoff clutchness in their resume but still got paid. I don't know why this point is not making it across to you but you need to acknowledge reality. Cam may again lose in the playoff first round this year but it won't affect his contract at all. If you want that to change you need to try your hardest to get a job as a gm and put a requirement for year 4 qb's to be clutch in the playoffs to get a contract otherwise you are speaking a whole lot of nothing lol.

Post the three biggest QB contracts. Every one of those QBs have multiple playoff wins. Yes, playoff wins (as evidenced by flacco) have a very large determination on the qb's contract. To say otherwise is wrong.

Look, I get it. I think Cam is head and shoulders the best of the young QBs. I believe Luck is his only peer, and even still, Cam is proven to be (at least statistically*) better than all of them (Wilson included).

But, there's all of this talk of how te salary cap will rise and QB contracts will as well. I agree with that. But, as the job market indicates, other positions contracts will rise, too. That includes LT, WRs, MLBs, etc.

To me, Luke is just as important to the team as Cam. So, do you think his agent would say, "well, Luke is great and potentially one of the best ever. And I see Cam got this 150m+ contract, but my client, being the generous man he is, will take 40% of that number"? No, he won't.

So, the team becomes a balancing act of how much do you pay Luke and how much do you pay Cam, because, in the end, the two will need huge contracts, demanding of their elite status.

*i say statistically because I know someone is going to come in and say, "Wilson is better. He has Super Bowl ring!"

[Guest Irv]

[IGSaint]

Post the three biggest QB contracts. Every one of those QBs have multiple playoff wins. Yes, playoff wins (as evidenced by flacco) have a very large determination on the qb's contract. To say otherwise is wrong.

Look, I get it. I think Cam is head and shoulders the best of the young QBs. I believe Luck is his only peer, and even still, Cam is proven to be (at least statistically*) better than all of them (Wilson included).

But, there's all of this talk of how te salary cap will rise and QB contracts will as well. I agree with that. But, as the job market indicates, other positions contracts will rise, too. That includes LT, WRs, MLBs, etc.

To me, Luke is just as important to the team as Cam. So, do you think his agent would say, "well, Luke is great and potentially one of the best ever. And I see Cam got this 150m+ contract, but my client, being the generous man he is, will take 40% of that number"? No, he won't.

So, the team becomes a balancing act of how much do you pay Luke and how much do you pay Cam, because, in the end, the two will need huge contracts, demanding of their elite status.

*i say statistically because I know someone is going to come in and say, "Wilson is better. He has Super Bowl ring!"

 

 

Who is talking Cam getting the biggest QB contract here? My point was that Cam is going to get a good deal similar to guys like Dalton regardless of what he does in the postseason. My intention in my post was not to make Cam the highest paid QB even though he doesn't have the playoff success right now. I don't think Cam wants to be the highest paid QB either but some people in this thread are talking like Cam should be underpayed compared to other QB's with similar stats until he gets some playoff wins and that is just not how contracts are done for the QB position.