The Greg Hardy thread....for everything Hardy related

[cookinbrak]

I'm not sure the trial matters anymore.

 

He's never playing football here again.

 

It's conceivable he'll ever suit up anywhere else again either.

 

So, he's already convicted and sentenced?

 

He'll play for us this season.

 

[Panthers_Lover]

So you quote a Peter King article as your source.  

 

You are what's wrong with the people.  Your a sheep, just believe what your told.

 

 

 

Maybe Hardy is guilty.  But he is guilty of a MISDEMEANOR.  NO INJURIES.  

 

Rice was charged with a FELONY!  McDonald was arrested for a FELONY!  Peterson charged with a FELONY!  

 

"No injuries" because he didn't beat her enough? Really?

[Panthers_Lover]

Did you hear Hardy called 911 to his place?  How many domestic abusers do that, how rare is that?  It's been confirmed the person who "saw" Hardy beating Holder, was lying through her teeth in trial.  Did you know Holder was on coke that night?  Hardy wasn't even arrested that night, so it seems her injuries didn't match the report she gave. (Which she gave it later and not that night).  Both parties said Hardy's manager/friend held Holder down that night.  If Hardy was beating the mess out of her, why wasn't Hardy's friend charged as an accomplice?  There are so many holes in this girl story, it's almost laughable.  Laughing is what you would have been doing if you followed the trial the day it was held.  Hardy will probably be found innocent in November, and all of yall will probably crawl back into your holes, along with the media. 

 

One question: Why was Hardy convicted?

[jamos14]

"No injuries" because he didn't beat her enough? Really?

 

No clown.  It was a misdemeanor because she had no injuries.  She had no injuries because he didn't "beat the hell out of her".   

 

I'm not defending whatever Hardy did that night but it wasn't a "beating".

 

 

[Panthers_Lover]

God this infuriates me and I hope it does the team also. How did this all happen? I mean, what made this so big? A video of RAY RICE hitting his fiancé came out and all the sudden domestic abuse is a bigger topic then a virus that has killed 2500 people, a terrorist group who has executed 2 Americans and a UK man, and a nuclear rich country with strong tensions against our country.

I swear people get dumber by the day, and I wish all the nosy people would let the family handle the situation in private. It's no one else's business but them, and the police if necessary.

Some retard on the ESPN comment page said "Hardy threatened to kill his girlfriend and would have had she testified". I swear people are so fuging stupid and self-righteous now it's insane and I can't help getting pissed off about it. I wish we could just watch and hear about football instead of Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, and Greg Hardy's personal lives.

 

A few facts for you about this worthless topic of domestic abuse, a topic that just needs to be kept in the family, kept private:

 

• In the United States, researchers estimate the 40 percent to 70 percent of female murder victims were killed by their husbands or boyfriends, frequently in the context of an ongoing abusive relationship.
• According to the FBI, a woman is battered every 15 seconds.
• 2 million to 4 million American women are abused each year.
• White, Black, Hispanic & Non-Hispanic women have equivalent rates of violence committed by intimate partners.
• Nearly 1/2 of men who abuse their female partners, also abuse their children.
• Up to 50% of homeless women and children in this country are fleeing domestic violence.
• Studies show that women face the greatest risk of assault when they leave or threaten to leave their partners, or report the abuse to authorities.

[Montsta]

One question: Why was Hardy convicted?

He wasn't.

As soon as he opted for a jury trial the conviction was thrown out, as in, never happened. Poof. Gone. Espn says he was convicted and is appealing which simply isn't true. In an appeals process, you are still going through with the original sentencing during appeals, which means he'd be doing 60 days in jail right now and be on 18 months probation. But he's not, he has no criminal record as of today, and won't until he is found guilty at his real trial in November.

The fact is the Panthers were trying to give due process to one of their players, and because of ESPN's grossly negligent representation of the facts of the case, millions of simple minded ninnies like you are calling for Greg Hardy's head.

None of this matters. Americans have such a tragically limited attention span that this will be forgotten when the next outrage shows on the news for ratings.

Nearly 3 dozen people, mainly young children, were massacred at Sandy Hook and the American public gave a poo for about a month and a half.

How long do you think Americans will care about a rich athlete removing his coked out, drunk, hysterical, gold-digging girlfriend from his apartment?

People can hashtag take a stand against domestic violence until they are blue in the face, but the sad reality is absolutely nobody will give a sh!t soon enough, your outraged self included.

[jamos14]

[Panthers_Lover]

He wasn't.

As soon as he opted for a jury trial the conviction was thrown out, as in, never happened. Poof. Gone. Espn says he was convicted and is appealing which simply isn't true. In an appeals process, you are still going through with the original sentencing during appeals, which means he'd be doing 60 days in jail right now and be on 18 months probation. But he's not, he has no criminal record as of today, and won't until he is found guilty at his real trial in November.

The fact is the Panthers were trying to give due process to one of their players, and because of ESPN's grossly negligent representation of the facts of the case, millions of simple minded ninnies like you are calling for Greg Hardy's head.

None of this matters. Americans have such a tragically limited attention span that this will be forgotten when the next outrage shows on the news for ratings.

Nearly 3 dozen people, mainly young children, were massacred at Sandy Hook and the American public gave a poo for about a month and a half.

How long do you think Americans will care about a rich athlete removing his coked out, drunk, hysterical, gold-digging girlfriend from his apartment?

People can hashtag take a stand against domestic violence until they are blue in the face, but the sad reality is absolutely nobody will give a sh!t soon enough, your outraged self included.

 

When people appeal their convictions, they can be released on appeal bond so that they are not immediately in jail. It is entirely possible to be out after a conviction, so no points for you there.

 

I'm not calling for GH's head ... never, ever have. Just stating FACTS that he was convicted. It's not as if it "never happened." It did happen. The appeal is not automatic; if he had not appealed, his conviction stands ... A jury trial outcome of not guilty would negate that conviction. I understand that.

 

Those who give a sh!t about domestic abuse and violence did so before the GH or Ray Rice situation, and will continue to do so. The poster ... and simple minded ninnies like him and you ... fail to understand that the fact that we care about it isn't because of some media frenzy, or because of some rich athlete simply "removing his coked out ..... girlfriend" from his apartment. Even such a woman doesn't deserve to be abused. And simply because she was "hurt enough" or "knocked out," like RR's fiance/now wife doesn't mean she wasn't a victim. That notion is absolutely ridiculous. Like saying a rape victim who chooses to try to stay alive by not fighting wasn't raped because she didn't fight back, she didn't allow herself to be beaten to "prove" it was rape.

 

I know I'm one of only a few women here, so I understand that the perspective isn't shared by the majority here ... and trust me, I am NOT saying that "all" the men here don't understand the issue of domestic abuse because they are men ... some just don't get it.

[greghardy'sAK-47]

i told you people last monday, when the rice video came out, hardy was fuged and that as soon as he got the ax the media would have to turn their attentions to shitting all over the panthers.  the story cannot be allowed to die.  the tabloid media is big business and espn, etc. are selling out to it.

 

is it any wonder though? this is the day and age where reality tv shows rule and people thrive off of other's misfortunes and drama.  there is a media problem, but at the heart of the matter is a nation that has collectively turned into trailer park trash.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jamos14]

 And simply because she was "hurt enough" or "knocked out," like RR's fiance/now wife doesn't mean she wasn't a victim. 

 

You also cannot compare the crimes because they are nothing alike.  Which is why I brought up the point of it being a misdemeanor not a felony. 

[WUnderhill]

One question: Why was Hardy convicted?

I explained to you earlier how he was not convicted as defined by our constitution and to hold one persons opinion against him is simply un-American. You have chosen to ignore what was laid out before you and use this same argument again. At this point I can only assume you're trolling.

[Montsta]

When people appeal their convictions, they can be released on appeal bond so that they are not immediately in jail. It is entirely possible to be out after a conviction, so no points for you there.

I'm not calling for GH's head ... never, ever have. Just stating FACTS that he was convicted. It's not as if it "never happened." It did happen. The appeal is not automatic; if he had not appealed, his conviction stands ... A jury trial outcome of not guilty would negate that conviction. I understand that.

Those who give a sh!t about domestic abuse and violence did so before the GH or Ray Rice situation, and will continue to do so. The poster ... and simple minded ninnies like him and you ... fail to understand that the fact that we care about it isn't because of some media frenzy, or because of some rich athlete simply "removing his coked out ..... girlfriend" from his apartment. Even such a woman doesn't deserve to be abused. And simply because she was "hurt enough" or "knocked out," like RR's fiance/now wife doesn't mean she wasn't a victim. That notion is absolutely ridiculous. Like saying a rape victim who chooses to try to stay alive by not fighting wasn't raped because she didn't fight back, she didn't allow herself to be beaten to "prove" it was rape.

I know I'm one of only a few women here, so I understand that the perspective isn't shared by the majority here ... and trust me, I am NOT saying that "all" the men here don't understand the issue of domestic abuse because they are men ... some just don't get it.

That's a really sexist thing to say. I am fully aware of the realities of domestic abuse. I'm also one of the few people on here who has been to prison and can say first hand what happens to DV's when they get to prison. They get their asses beat.

But lumping in GH situation into this hot button issue of domestic violence is irrational and irresponsible. He had a crazy bitch attacking him in his house and had his fiend hold her there until the cops arrived, the cops that he called, and the cops that SHE tried to run away from when they arrived. She wasn't a victim, she was 50% responsible in a drug and alcohol fueled dispute and should also have been arrested for DV.

You can pull the I'm a woman you're a man so you don't understand card, but I do understand, I don't tolerate domestic violence, and still don't think GH is the monster the media is making him out to be.

[LA_Panther]

Just wanna give props to the San Francisco 49ers: the only team with balls in this whole drama that has not given in to this madness and is letting the law run its course

[Panthers_Lover]

That's a really sexist thing to say. I am fully aware of the realities of domestic abuse. I'm also one of the few people on here who has been to prison and can say first hand what happens to DV's when they get to prison. They get their asses beat.

But lumping in GH situation into this hot button issue of domestic violence is irrational and irresponsible. He had a crazy bitch attacking him in his house and had his fiend hold her there until the cops arrived, the cops that he called, and the cops that SHE tried to run away from when they arrived. She wasn't a victim, she was 50% responsible in a drug and alcohol fueled dispute and should also have been arrested for DV.

You can pull the I'm a woman you're a man so you don't understand card, but I do understand, I don't tolerate domestic violence, and still don't think GH is the monster the media is making him out to be.

 

I CLEARLY said I WASN'T lumping all men in that category. Sorry if you misread, or chose to ignore, what I said.

 

The fact is that WE don't know everything that happened in the GH situation, and won't know until there is PUBLIC testimony in the jury trial. The fact is that "lumping" that situation into the issue of DV is not irrational or irresponsible. He had a relationship with the woman ... there was something that went on. (He was convicted, but let's put that aside for now.) These are the fact ... and it's out there and will be adjudicated in November (I believe).

 

Again, I haven't said GH is a monster ... but some people are justifying him by comparing the situation to RR ... "how could he beat her without knocking her out, when it only took RR one left hook." That's ridiculous "logic" on its face.