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Rivera coming up on NFL Network to discuss Hardy.

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By Strawman,
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TheMaulClaw Mentor

TheMaulClaw

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You resort to name calling?  Seriously?  Are you 12?

 

It's not a name.  You're a newb with less then 80 post.  You probably just signed up here to troll the Hardy topic. 

 

One again.....because of NC law Hardy wasn't able to plead not guilty and get his trial.  If Hardy was truly guilty he would have been sentence by the judge and the sentence would have been effective immediately.  Any other state that wasn't just trying to save money and he would still be "innocent." 

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TheCandyMan Community Regular

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Mentioned Stewie and Cam playing well.

Disappointed a little in defense for not getting outs on 3rd down as much as he'd like.

Hardy situation will be evaluated. "Fluid situation"

DG doing due diligence today on teams options.

Hardy said he understood deactivation, Ron allowed him to go home yesterday. On time today for meetings.

Said he, JR, and DG made decision. All internal to team.

No decision as of now, but will be full participant in practice and meetings this week.

Play him and you win, you don't have a conscience. Play him and you lose, he's a distraction.

Team investigation ongoing.

Tolbert ok, a little sore. Fozzy pulled quad, week to week. Deangelo worked out today. Gerry Williams worked out today. Tolbert took shot that knocked the wind out of him.

Little concerned about KBs drops, concentration issue, but loved big catch. Working on details.

Thinks D will get even better. Mentioned Melvin and Cason by name as having good game.

 

 

Thanks OP for the recap.

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TimTom Newbie

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What's his sentence then? 

 

 

 

This sentence, which would most likely also include a No Contact Order, are likely the terms of his Appeal Bond as dictated by North Carolina Code of Law.  His appeal immediately NULLIFIES the bench trial decision (see nullity in the dictionary).  He is now awaiting his jury trial, which is a trial de novo (see new, from Latin, in the dictionary).  No previous decisions hold.  No prior evidence holds.  No testimony, whatever, holds.  

 

Another way to look at it is this: If you look up Greg Hardy in a background check, a public records request, etc, nothing will come up related to this case.  If a police officer runs Greg Hardy's name on the National Criminal Database, the computer in his car which gives more information, it will come back as arrested/charged on the misdemeanors.  No plea, no decision, no sentencing. 

 

His current legal status is neither convicted nor guilty.  His current legal status is PENDING.  That's not just some word or an argument over semantics.  That is his adjudication's current disposition.  And due process is still being administered.  He, being a United States citizen and a legal resident of the state of North Carolina, is innocent until proven guilty.  In this case, his guilt or innocence can ONLY be determined now by a jury trial.  

 

Some helpful links -> NC Publication on Courts (.pdf) or a legal firm's website take on it.

 

Caveat Emptor - I am not a lawyer.  This is my understanding of the various resources available relative to court proceedings like this.  My understanding could be wrong or, more frankly, just not matter.  I think the latter is the case.

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frash.exe Apprentice

frash.exe

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Stop it, just stop it.. We can play legal semantics all day long but he was found guilty by a judge. He asked for a bench trial, it was granted and he was found guilty. I know he did it, you know he did it and he knows he did it. I'm over it, I've moved on, so should you. At the end of the day, Hardy hung around with cocaine addicts and the lot he ran with caught up to him.

Read

http://obsdailyviews.blogspot.com/2014/09/harold-cogdell-i-know-why-greg-hardy.html?m=1

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ed bell Newbie

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I think it's telling, and accurate that Rivera said (paraphrasing) "Play him and win the game you're insensitive.... Play him and lose, he's a distraction"

It was a no-win for the team if he played, so for the better of the franchise, he was inactive. I'm still wondering what the labor agreement says about this. I really think we can't suspend him yet, but the NFLPA isn't volunteering the information because it makes them look bad and the NFL in the mean time is letting the Panthers twist in the wind.

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cgarsmoker Newbie

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Here's a question.....Is it possible to offer her a settlement? Would it be prudent to give her a Prada purse loaded with cash so she doesn't show up at the next court date, withdraw/recant her testimony, or no longer cooperate with the prosecutor? It's happened before. I'm not saying it's right but when you look at how much Hardy would lose being suspended 6 games and the whole media snit storm surrounding these circumstances, if I were him...I'd look at all my options - which includes giving Ray Donovan a call.

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Carolina Cajun Mentor

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We go 2-0 for the first time since 2008 but obviously they're far more better things to talk about.....

 

I don't know why I thought of it while reading this post...we had a little distraction on that team to.  If you don't remember, Smitty was suspended for the first 2 games of that season for pounding Ken Lucas's face in.

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firefox1234 Grand Master

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I don't know why I thought of it while reading this post...we had a little distraction on that team to. If you don't remember, Smitty was suspended for the first 2 games of that season for pounding Ken Lucas's face in.

The same year we lost in the playoffs in the game "that shall not be spoken".
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