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Today you witnessed the end as well as the beginning

frash.exe

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The last time I visited Warwick Winery in upstate NY was in November 2010. That Sunday, the Panthers started Brian St. Pierre to play against the Baltimore Ravens, who had been consistent contenders going back before then.

 

For reference:

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010112100/2010/REG11/ravens@panthers#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A09000d5d81c4fdb1&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore

 

In that game, the Panthers had nothing on their roster that looked like a starting QB; the roster was so thin Mike Goodson had a career day with over 150 all purpose yards and no touchdowns. Steve Smith turned in a performance like we'd seen so much of in 2013. Greg Hardy was a rookie and still developing at that point. He was able to generate a sack against the statuesque Joe Flacco.

 

Today I went back as a post birthday pilgrimage with a bunch of friends. The Panthers are a completely different team now. John Fox is gone, Marty Hurney is gone, all of our marginal UDFA starting QBs are gone and since 2013, the window is open, and the air has taken the stench of failure of the past out, and the aroma of freshly washed success and nipple shorts is being blown right in past the clothesline.

 

Checking my droid eris was miserable that day, all the news was bad and I don't know why I still gave enough of a poo to even mind the Panthers that far into what ended up being a 2-14 season. Even today, checking the gameday thread on my 5s was littered with the same comments by ten different people after every play, the sentiment seesawing from one pole to the other.

 

KB one handed grab:

 

"KB!"

 

"Whadda play by Benjamin"

 

"OMG"

 

"ROTY!"

 

next play: a -3 yard run or something:

 

"THIS TEAM SUCKS"

 

"we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose i know it"

 

"FIRE SHULA/RIVERA/JANITOR"

 

Annoying: The fact that I waited in line for a baked potato burger for over an hour, and when I finally got to the front to place an order, watching one of the short order cooks come up to the chalkboard and erase EVERYTHING and announce that they were out of burgers.

More Annoying: Listening to some old white guy behind me complain about them running out of hamburgers for 30 minutes.

 

Most Annoying: All of this plus reading the gameday thread at the same time on a shoddy 3G connection that I kept losing.

 

Guys, commenting in gameday threads seem to bring out the worst in posters. In fact, I often find myself watching the mental breakdown of posters I consider to be among the most level-headed on this message board. I get that emotions run high, these games matter more than games in any other sport. But the bi-polar state of this message board was on full display today, and I was disappointed, because I thought that people would have realized by now that we are beyond that. This isn't the same ol' panthers you're watching anymore. This is a new team, directed by new people, led by one of the most dynamic players on one side of the ball, and the best front seven in the league on the other side.

 

Is it the pits being a Panther fan when Stewart gets a handoff and immediately gets plastered by the entire detroit lions defense?

 

Does KB dropping a pass bring your blood to a raging boil?

 

Does it make you wonder if there are a bunch of people with downs calling the plays and the coaches are just out there for show when we have one of our signature 3 and outs?

 

Ok maybe it does, but:

 

Did you remember how many times you flipped out when the Panthers made a bad play and thought it was petty and silly after you saw them win by over 2 scores?

 

Did you know that KB is still on pace for over 1000 yards receiving this year and more yards than Calvin Johnson had his rookie season?

 

Did you hear about how the Chargers knocked out Cthulhu and dropped a 30 burger on the Seahawks? Is their run starting to wane?

 

Is RGIII even going to play another down in the NFL? After all the Redskins gave up investing in him?

 

There's going to be a lot of bad plays that the opponent is going to win. But there are a lot of teams that had worse days today than we did. We learned that a few bad plays don't lose games, losing Greg Hardy isn't the end of the world, and the Panthers passed a major test against the Lions. The Lions may not end up being anything special, they probably will look good the rest of the first half of the season, and collapse in the second half like last year, but holding their offense to 7 points is a big deal. The last time a team held the Lions to 7 points or less was in week 7 of 2012 against the Bears. How many analysts predicted that? How many analysts predicted us to beat a horrible Buccaneers team with no answers at many positions last week? Better questions. How many of you predicted us, or at least had confidence to start 2-0 considering the context of our opponents. I'm probably the most obvious person to say that you should call a bad team a bad team, but I have confidence in the Panthers right now, and I always did starting this season. Have they not earned the right for a little bit of your trust?

 

The Panthers have changed but our fans How do you want to remember how you enjoyed the season if this is the year the Panthers usurp the Seahawks and 49ers and emerge as the new premier class of the league and go all the way?

 

like this?

 

v72usQq.png

 

or this?

FY2mRt0.jpg

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The last time I visited Warwick Winery in upstate NY was in November 2010. That Sunday, the Panthers started Brian St. Pierre to play against the Baltimore Ravens, who had been consistent contenders going back before then.

 

For reference:

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010112100/2010/REG11/ravens@panthers#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A09000d5d81c4fdb1&tab=analyze&analyze=boxscore

 

In that game, the Panthers had nothing on their roster that looked like a starting QB; the roster was so thin Mike Goodson had a career day with over 150 all purpose yards and no touchdowns. Steve Smith turned in a performance like we'd seen so much of in 2013. Greg Hardy was a rookie and still developing at that point. He was able to generate a sack against the statuesque Joe Flacco.

 

Today I went back as a post birthday pilgrimage with a bunch of friends. The Panthers are a completely different team now. John Fox is gone, Marty Hurney is gone, all of our marginal UDFA starting QBs are gone and since 2013, the window is open, and the air has taken the stench of failure of the past out, and the aroma of freshly washed success and nipple shorts is being blown right in past the clothesline.

 

Checking my droid eris was miserable that day, all the news was bad and I don't know why I still gave enough of a poo to even mind the Panthers that far into what ended up being a 2-14 season. Even today, checking the gameday thread on my 5s was littered with the same comments by ten different people after every play, the sentiment seesawing from one pole to the other.

 

KB one handed grab:

 

"KB!"

 

"Whadda play by Benjamin"

 

"OMG"

 

"ROTY!"

 

next play: a -3 yard run or something:

 

"THIS TEAM SUCKS"

 

"we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose, we're gonna lose i know it"

 

"FIRE SHULA/RIVERA/JANITOR"

 

Annoying: The fact that I waited in line for a baked potato burger for over an hour, and when I finally got to the front to place an order, watching one of the short order cooks come up to the chalkboard and erase EVERYTHING and announce that they were out of burgers.

More Annoying: Listening to some old white guy behind me complain about them running out of hamburgers for 30 minutes.

 

Most Annoying: All of this plus reading the gameday thread at the same time on a shoddy 3G connection that I kept losing.

 

Guys, commenting in gameday threads seem to bring out the worst in posters. In fact, I often find myself watching the mental breakdown of posters I consider to be among the most level-headed on this message board. I get that emotions run high, these games matter more than games in any other sport. But the bi-polar state of this message board was on full display today, and I was disappointed, because I thought that people would have realized by now that we are beyond that. This isn't the same ol' panthers you're watching anymore. This is a new team, directed by new people, led by one of the most dynamic players on one side of the ball, and the best front seven in the league on the other side.

 

Is it the pits being a Panther fan when Stewart gets a handoff and immediately gets plastered by the entire detroit lions defense?

 

Does KB dropping a pass bring your blood to a raging boil?

 

Does it make you wonder if there are a bunch of people with downs calling the plays and the coaches are just out there for show when we have one of our signature 3 and outs?

 

Ok maybe it does, but:

 

Did you remember how many times you flipped out when the Panthers made a bad play and thought it was petty and silly after you saw them win by over 2 scores?

 

Did you know that KB is still on pace for over 1000 yards receiving this year and more yards than Calvin Johnson had his rookie season?

 

Did you hear about how the Chargers knocked out Cthulhu and dropped a 30 burger on the Seahawks? Is their run starting to wane?

 

Is RGIII even going to play another down in the NFL? After all the Redskins gave up investing in him?

 

There's going to be a lot of bad plays that the opponent is going to win. But there are a lot of teams that had worse days today than we did. We learned that a few bad plays don't lose games, losing Greg Hardy isn't the end of the world, and the Panthers passed a major test against the Lions. The Lions may not end up being anything special, they probably will look good the rest of the first half of the season, and collapse in the second half like last year, but holding their offense to 7 points is a big deal. The last time a team held the Lions to 7 points or less was in week 7 of 2012 against the Bears. How many analysts predicted that? How many analysts predicted us to beat a horrible Buccaneers team with no answers at many positions last week? Better questions. How many of you predicted us, or at least had confidence to start 2-0 considering the context of our opponents. I'm probably the most obvious person to say that you should call a bad team a bad team, but I have confidence in the Panthers right now, and I always did starting this season. Have they not earned the right for a little bit of your trust?

 

The Panthers have changed but our fans How do you want to remember how you enjoyed the season if this is the year the Panthers usurp the Seahawks and 49ers and emerge as the new premier class of the league and go all the way?

 

like this?

 

v72usQq.png

 

or this?

FY2mRt0.jpg

 

TL;DR

 

Frash Brastard's trip to Warwick Winery in upstate NY was a lot better than it was in November of 2010...

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I am completely collected right now and can still say Shula's foolish stubborness to commit to the first down run up the middle virtually every single series and after every big play is one of the dumbest, most stubborn coaching "tactics," if you can call it that, I have ever laid my eyes upon.

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