Around the Horn called for Hardy's suspension

[Pox 08]

May force Goodell's hand...  but I don't believe the Big Cat will be swayed by public opinion that easily.  

[Riverboat Ron]

So as a society in the US we've gone back to the point where we don't need a jury trail to prove guilt?

All the media sees is a wealthy black athlete who plays a violent sport vs. Sweet innocent white girl. Why would she lie? Let's just lynch him because we know what he's capable of. Who needs a jury trial when we can pass judgement?

[Cpt slay a ho]

It all goes back to in the State of North Carolina .. any woman can go the magistrate and get a warrant for your arrest with no proof but her word. Any if she has any proof at all no matter how small, you will be found guilty in district court. You then go to 12 weeks of abuse counselling. For those with money you can request a trial by Jury and thats the path Hardy chose.

 

It happened to me. An ex GF can into my house (she did not live there) began making as scene. All I wanted was for her to leave and she would not, so then began the shoving match ... yes I pushed her to get her out the door, but I never hit her ... I few hours later I was in jail and convicted of DV.

 

You can ask anyone, I am the nicest sweetest teddy bear a girl would want to meet, but because of NC Law I now have a DV charge on my record. 

 

Damn dude WTF!

[Fiz]

Lol if you believe that's how it went

[Panther53521]

Lol if you believe that's how it went

 

Fiz .. If I ever meet you, we will have some words ... You do not call me a lair ... I was open and honest about how the court system in North Carolina treats men in these DV cases.

 

I fought for this country and your right to have the opinion that you have, if even I dont like it. but to call a man a lair is a cut below the belt.

[SmootsDaddy89]

this thread is gonna go well

[pstall]

I like how Fiz decides to ignore good points in the forums he is arguing in but chosing random people to disagree with. The second someone makes a non emotional succinct point that breaks his whole reality open he disappears. I personally havent because I get to heated but many more have made well researched points and he never argues with them! lol

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Much like a tinderbox poster I know. Hmm

[BigBoss]

Yeah, Hardy is probably grass. And it's his fault, you lie with dogs, you get fleas. Let's not kid ourselves, he wasn't trying to get her to do a Bible study and that was it.

[SmootsDaddy89]

We need some more people to complain about why people care so much when a woman gets beaten up by her man when there are players in the NFL who have killed someone before.

 

 

They are ironically making the counterpoint against them in the process : "I mean what's the big deal here?" That's pretty much what the NFL was thinking too. Manslaughter is obviously a big deal. It always gets attention and the NFL deals with it swiftly and stringently. Domestic violence has always been dealt with by either downplaying, ignoring, or victim-blaming.

[Paa Langfart]

Same sort of crap happened with the whole child molestation thing a few years ago.  All sorts of people being accused and presumed guilty until proven innocent.  Shits scary and ought to make anyone with half a brain pause and think before condemning anyone.

 

Only thing I know hardy is guilty of is stupidity in picking women.

[CarolinaCoolin]

True witch hunt

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[PantherFanOne]

Pardon the Interruption is also calling for it, suspension with pay.  Yet the thing I keep trying to grasp my head around is, they are essentially saying Hardy IS guilty.  They don't care about what was said in the trial or any of that.  They don't care that Hardy has a great chance of being found not guilty, I believe.  They are pretty much stating he's guilty.  I mean PTI even mentioned they read the transcripts, and they are horrified.  I'm asking myself 'Did they really read the transcripts?'.

 

 

Now you know why I never listen to those idiots on "Pardon the interruption". How this show is allowed to continue is beyond me.Total dumbasses.

[Fiz]

Fiz .. If I ever meet you, we will have some words ... You do not call me a lair ... I was open and honest about how the court system in North Carolina treats men in these DV cases.

 

I fought for this country and your right to have the opinion that you have, if even I dont like it. but to call a man a lair is a cut below the belt.

girl came in, she went crazy, yada yada yada, i get arrested for domestic assault.

 

im sorry i can't understand why that sounded suspicious. 

[Fiz]

guys an appeal doesn't mean you get a redo. if you don't like the ruling you don't just get to toss your hands in the air and say "nope one more time."

 

you have to prove there was a procedural/legal error with the court ruling. with something like DV cases, which are designed to be solved very quickly (just for obvious reasons) a jury trial is not needed.

 

For those of you who think the case doesn't count because he didn't have a jury or that his rights to due process have been superseded, are you telling me that every time you've been to traffic court, or small claims court, those rulings no longer count?

 

Hell, in north carolina in november there's a proposal on the docket for the state to join the other 49 states in the union and allow plaintiffs facing criminal chargers to forgo jury trials altogether!

 

Criminal defendants charged with all but the most serious felonies would be able to have a judge, rather than a jury of their peers, decide whether they are guilty or innocent if voters approve a state constitutional amendment on the November ballot. 

 

The measure is a seemingly bland bit of policy on a ballot topped by a hotly contested U.S. Senate race, but it deals with one of the most fundamental rights guaranteed by the federal and state constitutions. 

 

"If we're depriving you of life, liberty or property, you can get a jury trial," said Lori Kroll, a lawyer who served as chief of staff to former state Sen. Pete Brunstetter, R-Forsyth, when he sponsored the bill that sent the amendment to voters. Both Kroll and Brunstetter now work for Novant Health. 

Read more at http://www.wral.com/voters-will-decide-whether-felony-criminal-defendants-can-wave-jury-trials/13915381/#1GfjpR7D5GlWYZP4.99