The truth....once D.G.left the Gmen....team started to decline

[markbm62]

I somewhat agree about the Giants dropping off after Gettleman left but his leaving didn't make Eli suck.

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Eli's suckness was overcome by the talent around him, less talent now the greater his suckness.

[JJT]

Just to point this out to a few on here. After Dave left that team,it started a tailspin. I believe that his input with personal decisions really helped make them what they where.If this keeps up for them, the head coach might not make it through the season. We are lucky to have ths guy as the GM. His personal evaluation skills are top notch and he has begun to fix the cap issues. There is no doubt he will have the Panthers playing winning ball for many seasons to come. That would be something this team and the fans have never known before.

 

Didn't their decline begin when Plaxico Burris shot himself in the foot?

 

[JJT]

True point in this thread, the Giants are awful, but lets face it, the entire NFC East is complete garbage (minus Eagles).  They have taken over the award that used to go to the NFC West.  It's looking like only the division winner will go to the playoffs, somewhere around 9-7.

 

But-- but-- but--the NFL Network said they had to spend a long time breaking down the NFC East last night because there was so much interest in them.

 

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Didn't their decline begin when Plaxico Burris shot himself in the foot?

Didn't they win another superbowl after that? That's a pretty sweet decline.

[FootballMaestro]

I just New York needs a new identity. Has nothing to do with who the old assistant GM was. As good as they've both been in the past, maybe it's time to move on from Manning and Coughlin. If they suck this year they can land one of Mariota, Winston, Hundley or Petty.

 

Yup Yup

 

Eli has/had the same problems as Newton (unimpressive running game, OL, barely average receivers), but couldn't make up for them.

 

Coughlin, is a good coach when all things are clicking. But like Eli, he pretty much sucks when has to work with mediocrity, and lift the team up.

 

[FootballMaestro]

Eli's suckness was overcome by the talent around him, less talent now the greater his suckness.

 

Yup, Eli's not good enough to make up for the talent deficit, as other QB's can/have done.

[Jmac]

Giants won in 2012 and Dave came here in early 2013.They played the last hand he left them in 2012 and 2013 began the fall off. Two years of lousy drafting and bad FA decisions started the decline along with a aging player base.Doesn't take long to be in the toilet in this league.

[brainless wuss]

If this is true, you think the Giants will ask him back as GM when they restructure their organization?

[Stroupe-a-loop]

If this is true, you think the Giants will ask him back as GM when they restructure their organization?

To which I think he will respond with too bad, in a lovely Bostonian accent.

[carolina-chuck]

NYG were already declining. It was just a matter if time. It's now the time. Some bad draft picks didn't help them either.

It's time for Coughlin to go. I'm not sure if he'll make it past week4-5. That team clearly needs a new voice in the locker room.

[Mr. Scot]

If this is true, you think the Giants will ask him back as GM when they restructure their organization?

 

GM Positions tend to be promotions or retreads, not lateral hires.

 

If Jerry Reese is gone for some reason, the Giants have Marc Ross or Assistant GM Kevin Abrams waiting.

 

[PantherPhann89]

Eli's suckness was overcome by the talent around him, less talent now the greater his suckness.

Agreed that he needs an o-line an WR's but those things has nothing to do with his accuracy when he does make throws....

[rayzor]

one aspect that they may be missing is game his assistance in game prep because wasn't he known for his ability to scout the other team?

[Semaj]

But, but, but his receivers and O-Line and what about #89?  

 

 

 

*sarcasm*