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Lions week! Detroit "Bout to get Rocked" City

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Great post BLG I second your analysis of the team with the exception - KR/PR - Jeremy Ross - don't forget the game against Green bay  

 

 Any breakdown of the Panthers roster would be appreciated as well if anyone feels inclined to take the time to do so. - I second that to would like to know more about the players were facing from a Panthers fan perspective

 

Lion's fan here.  I'm excited for the game next week.  I expect it to be a good one.  I'm not expecting Detroit to go into Charlotte and pull out a win, but I do think we'll give you a good game.  I just figured I could stop by and give you a bit more of a detailed look at the 2014 Lions than you will get through the conventional media.  While I watch a great deal of football, I've never coached or played at a high level so feel free to take my observations with a grain of salt.

 

Coaching - It appears that Detroit has a better situation than they have had in the past.  The discipline issues under Schwartz were well documented and they continued in the first half of the Giants game.  If it weren't for the 8 1st half penalties that game would've gotten out of hand.  The encouraging signs for us Lions fans is that the team responded and committed 0 second half penalties.  That never happened under Schwartz.  You're probably familiar with Lombardi as he as the Quarterback's coach of the Saints.  You'll definitely see some looks that you'll recognize from NO, but at the same time they've kept certain principles and schemes from the Linehan era.  I think Lombardi's gonna make a good OC, but next Sunday will be the first time he's called plays in a close NFL game (the NYG game was his first time calling plays in the NFL,) so it's quite possible that we see some playcalling yipps.  Marvin Austin came over from the Ravens and brought a great deal more aggressiveness.  In the Schwartz era we rushed 4 and played off man almost all of the time.  Austin seems to prefer press man and incorporating blitz packages utilizing all of the position groups.  This excites me in general, but against Benjamin and Olson it certainly could back fire.  Once those guys get the ball they're not easy to get down.

 

Offense- 

 

QB- This is the big one.  Has Stafford turned the corner?  I feel like this may sound like a homer comment, but I think you could make the argument that Stafford might have the most pure arm talent in the league.  He looked to be in great shape with added mobility.  I don't think either of his two touchdown passes happen in past seasons b/c the old Stafford wouldn't have been able to keep the play alive with his feet.  I expect him to make some mistakes against a defense as formidable as yours'.  The question is how many.  One pick I can live with.  Two ... not so much.

 

RB - Reggie Bush is Reggie Bush.  You're all familiar with his strengths and weakensses so I won't waste your time going there.  Joique Bell is our thumper.  He's not a bulldozer type.  He tends to take glancing blows, is slippery and has great balance.  He's not a home run threat but he's a really solid NFL RB that can catch the ball.  Theo Riddick will get some looks in the passing game.  He played both WR and RB at Notre Dame.  He can run the whole route tree and can be a mismatch out there.  While he's unlikely to get more than 10 plays throughout the game, he's capable when out there.

 

WR -  Megatron ... nuff said.  Golden Tate is going to put up some monster numbers.  If you play Fantasy Football and you can go trade for him on the cheep I suggest you do so.  He's one of the most sure handed receivers in the league (lead the league drop percentage) and is one of the most prolific WRs at breaking tackles after the catch.  After that, I'm not sure what to think of the group.  Ryan Broyles looked great in the preseason.  He's had two ACLs and a torn achilles in the last three years.  He looked healthy in the preseason and when given the chance he just makes plays.  Not the most explosive guy, but he's got sure hands and is quite adept at finding soft spots in the defense.   Broyles however didn't even suit up on Monday night.  Instead the lions trotted out Corey Fuller.  Fuller was a 6th rounder out of VaTech in 2013.  He's a former track guy with great speed but he's quite raw and still learning the position.  I think the Lions have a talented receiving core but I also don't think it's real deep in terms of proven performers.

 

TE - A real strong, deep group.  Pettigrew is a middle of the pack starting TE.  He's not nimble but he's a decent pass catcher and a pretty good inline blocker.  He does at times struggle with ball security, so if he does make a catch I look for CAR defenders to aggressively try and strip the ball.  Joseph Fauria seems to have improved his blocking.  He's still league average at best in that regard, but he's getting better.  He's got eilte hands though and he's 6'7" so he's a real threat in the red zone.  He's not a great athlete, but he can get some YAC if given the chance.  Ebron still doesn't look quite ready.  His athleticism for a TE is elite and his future looks bright, but I don't really expect the light bulb to come on quite yet (especially considering how elite your defense is.)

 

OL - The Lions offensive line was a pleasant surprise last year.  Reiff is a competent left tackle.  He's probably middle of the pack in the NFL.  I expect him to have his hands full with your DEs but he's not likely to completely crap the bed.  Larry Warford as a rookie was the 4th best OG in the league last year according to PFF.  He's a really good guard.  Raiola has played the best ball of his career this last year or so.  He's a smart technician, but he's also a hothead prone to boneheaded plays.   Rob Sims is the other guard and is a veteran starter.  He's okay, but if a Detroit OLineman has a putrid day I expect it to be him or Waddle.  Waddle our RT was a revelation last year as an undrafted free agent.   He consistently graded out highly and expectations were high heading into the season.  Throughout camp and preseason he didn't seem to play as well though.  I think a sophomore slump is a distinct possibility.

 

Defense - 

 

DL -  Suh and Fairley are pretty well known.  Suh has turned into a dominant run defender, although he's not the upfield pass rusher he was early in his career.  Fairley despite his gut is actually a better upfield pass rusher IMO, but he's inconsistent b/c he's not intrinsically motivated.  When he wants to be good though he's pretty damn good.  C.J. Mosley is a competent third DT.  Nothing special, but he can hold his own.  Ansah is an interesting DE.  He's one of the best athletes in the league (ran 4.59 at 276lbs.) but he's still figuring the game out.  His technique is still not that refined but he converts speed into power like few in the league and he hustles to the whistle.  I think against a guy like Newton his speed/hustle combo could result in a big play.  James Jones is a versitile veteran.  He'll play the outside on run downs and rush the passer from the inside on obvious passing downs.  Devin Taylor is a huge, young DE with decent athleticism and elite length.  George Johnson has been a real surprise.   A cast off from the Vikings, he dropped weight and has looked explosive off the edge.  He had 1.5 sacks in Monday night's game.  Overall this is a real strong position group.  3 top end talents and tons of quality depth.

 

LB -  Another good group, although Kyle Van Noy's injury has depleted the depth a bit.  Stephen Tulloch mans the middle.  He's a bit short, but plenty stout against the run.  He's a real solid tackler and is okay in coverage.  He's not elite in any regard, but he's a solid NFL starting middle linebacker.  DeAndre Levy should have made the pro bowl last year IMO.  He's one of the top coverage linebackers in the game and is a pretty fluid athlete.  You can have some success running right at him though.  We played nickle almost exclusively on Monday, but our third linebacker is Tahir Whitehead.  He was a 5th rounder out of Temple a few years back.  He's a great athlete, has been a big time special teams player, and played lights out in the preseason, but I have no idea if he's ready for the primetime.

 

DBs -  This is our achilles heal.  ReSean Mathis used to be a probowler down in JAC.  He's still competent but by no means elite.  Darius Slay is an unreal athlete.  He played pretty well for the most part on Monday night, but he's still got some growing pains ahead.  Our slot corner Bill Bentley blew out his ACL.  Nevin Lawson, our 4th rounder this year, came in and performed quite well.  Still, that's a spot you guys should go after.  I'd imagine Cotchery with his savvy and power could fare quite well in that matchup.  Glover Quinn is a pretty good free safety.  Not elite by any means, but a solid pro.  He's kind of like the safety version Tulloch IMO.  I'm not sure if Ihedigbo is going to play on Sunday.  He was out last week.  He's kind of an old school SS.  Great in the box but a trainwreck in coverage.  If he can't go Isa Abdul-Quddus will start in his place.  Personally I think IAQ and Quinn is our best look at safety as they're both coverage types and given our weakness at corner and relative strength at defending the run, I think two coverage safeties is actually the best setup in the back end.

 

Special Teams-

 

K - Freese is a rookie.  Was accurate in college but absolutely shanked his first pro field goal attempt.  He hit his next two though.  Still if this is a close game, this is a spot where the Lions would have reason for concern IMO.

 

P - Sam Martin - Great Punter and Kickoff Specialist.  Cannon of a leg.  

 

KR/PR - Jeremy Ross - Ross is okay back there.  He had great stats last year but they were greatly inflated by the snowstorm game in Philly in which potential defenders were sliding around like they were on skates.  I think of him as a middle of the pack PR/KR.

 

Hopefully, that was informative.  If you have any further question, I'd be more then happy to offer my opinions.  Any breakdown of the Panthers roster would be appreciated as well if anyone feels inclined to take the time to do so.

 

Looking forward to a great injury free game this weekend.

 

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From Bill Simmons pick em article  (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-sports-guys-week-2-nfl-picks/):

 

"PANTHERS (-2.5) over Lions

BUCS (-6) over Rams

America, I’d like to apologize for missing Carolina’s “Nobody Believes In Us!” potential last Sunday. Any doubt that it’s the NFL’s most important X factor was erased when it single-handedly transformed Derek Anderson into a semi-competent QB.2 The reality is this: Seattle is better than everyone, the Raiders-Rams-Cowboys are worse than everyone, and the other 27 teams could beat anyone else on any given week. Make your picks accordingly.

Two enjoyable factors in play with that Panthers pick: First, you gotta love going against Matt Stafford (and the entire Lions fan base in general) in a classic “Feeling A Little Too Good After A Big Home Win Against A Bad Team” game. Second, it’s an insult to Luke Kuechly and Carolina’s terrific defense that they aren’t even favored by three at home. Reader Tyrone Kirk says it best: “We keep hearing how dominant J.J. Watt was in Week 1. Do you realize the reigning DPOY had nine tackles, two for a loss, a sack, a pass defense that caused an int, and forced the fumble that sealed the win over Tampa? Does Kuechly have to get ALL of the Carolina tackles to be held in the same conversation of dominance as Watt?”

Meanwhile, you might remember me picking Tampa to become the NFC South’s second playoff team (over Carolina). If they don’t annihilate that putrid Rams team on Sunday, I’m out on Tampa. Gambling 101 — settle on the teams you like and ride them in September, but if you’re wrong, bail as quickly as possible. And I might have been wrong on Tampa. Their front seven wasn’t as dominant as I thought; Lovie Smith’s missionary position offense couldn’t have been less effective (as I secretly feared); and Josh McCown looked like a 35-year-old journeyman QB who roped someone into a big contract because he had five good games throwing to Marshall and Jeffery (as I secretly feared). Tampa is on gambling probation for me. One more week."

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From Bill Simmons pick em article (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-sports-guys-week-2-nfl-picks/):

"PANTHERS (-2.5) over Lions

BUCS (-6) over Rams

America, I’d like to apologize for missing Carolina’s “Nobody Believes In Us!” potential last Sunday. Any doubt that it’s the NFL’s most important X factor was erased when it single-handedly transformed Derek Anderson into a semi-competent QB.2 The reality is this: Seattle is better than everyone, the Raiders-Rams-Cowboys are worse than everyone, and the other 27 teams could beat anyone else on any given week. Make your picks accordingly.

Two enjoyable factors in play with that Panthers pick: First, you gotta love going against Matt Stafford (and the entire Lions fan base in general) in a classic “Feeling A Little Too Good After A Big Home Win Against A Bad Team” game. Second, it’s an insult to Luke Kuechly and Carolina’s terrific defense that they aren’t even favored by three at home. Reader Tyrone Kirk says it best: “We keep hearing how dominant J.J. Watt was in Week 1. Do you realize the reigning DPOY had nine tackles, two for a loss, a sack, a pass defense that caused an int, and forced the fumble that sealed the win over Tampa? Does Kuechly have to get ALL of the Carolina tackles to be held in the same conversation of dominance as Watt?”

Meanwhile, you might remember me picking Tampa to become the NFC South’s second playoff team (over Carolina). If they don’t annihilate that putrid Rams team on Sunday, I’m out on Tampa. Gambling 101 — settle on the teams you like and ride them in September, but if you’re wrong, bail as quickly as possible. And I might have been wrong on Tampa. Their front seven wasn’t as dominant as I thought; Lovie Smith’s missionary position offense couldn’t have been less effective (as I secretly feared); and Josh McCown looked like a 35-year-old journeyman QB who roped someone into a big contract because he had five good games throwing to Marshall and Jeffery (as I secretly feared). Tampa is on gambling probation for me. One more week."

Lol at missionary position offense.

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