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What wait a year after a guilty verdict to say something about a guy that, at the very least, left marks on a woman? Doing that is as ballless as what the Ravens did with Rice. You clearly have a double standard when it comes to our guys versus their guys.

Hardy is not facing any jail time because nobody really cares about domestic abuse. Ray Rice didn't get any jailtime and he knocked a woman unconscious. You can tell yourself what you want, but that doesn't make it true.

 

Rice should have gotten jail time. However considering Hardy was accused of not only hitting and bruising his girlfriend but also threatening her with murder, how is it possible not to get jail time over that?  In any case, you have to see that trail was more kangaroo-ish than anything else.  Most other courts would have dismissed the charges just over her being late.  It certainly wouldn't have gone into the night time.  A jury will probably found Hardy not guilty based on what was presented.

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No, but Hardy was found guilty by a judge. We're doing the same thing the Ravens were doing, sitting tight and hoping the whole thing blows over. We're just fortunate there's no tape.

This is true. I should have left hardy out of my post. Im just pissed at barnwell for not giving us any credit

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Rice should have gotten jail time. However considering Hardy was accused of not only hitting and bruising his girlfriend but also threatening her with murder, how is it possible not to get jail time over that? In any case, you have to see that trail was more kangaroo-ish than anything else. Most other courts would have dismissed the charges just over her being late. It certainly wouldn't have gone into the night time. A jury will probably found Hardy not guilty based on what was presented.

You can bring up how weird it is that she was late or that the trial went long. He was found guilty, and we are doing the same thing Baltimore was doing. Sitting tight and hoping to get through the season and then deal with it. We just got lucky that it hasn't gotten any worse since, but we are no better than the Ravens.

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You can bring up how weird it is that she was late or that the trial went long. He was found guilty, and we are doing the same thing Baltimore was doing. Sitting tight and hoping to get through the season and then deal with it. We just got lucky that it hasn't gotten any worse since, but we are no better than the Ravens.

 

We're waiting for the jury trial.  The REAL trial.  Not a trial overseen by a Feminist Man eater.

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necessary response from the NFL..but all this does is hurt the victimize her even more which is the most fugged up part. they are married. Ray Rices money is her money. NFL just cost her a lot of money for getting knocked the fug out.

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Nobody deserve to be hit. That goes to both males and females. You're an adult, nature gave you speech, freaking use it. This society is encouraging women to put their hands on people and that's fugged up. You're not an animal, talk.

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You can bring up how weird it is that she was late or that the trial went long. He was found guilty, and we are doing the same thing Baltimore was doing. Sitting tight and hoping to get through the season and then deal with it. We just got lucky that it hasn't gotten any worse since, but we are no better than the Ravens.

 

If the Big Cat is waiting for the jury trial before taking any action, I think we all should wait as well.  We are talking about an owner and team who went through the deal with Rae Carruth.  If Hardy's guilty verdict was so convincing, don't you think Hardy would have been disciplined by the team by now?  Again I say he was accused of a threat of murder and found guilty, yet was given no more than a wrist slap for a sentence.  This tells me even the judge knew she was running a kangaroo court that day.  I'm not defending Hardy, he's definitely guilty of stupidity if nothing else.  Yet there's doubt he's guilty of beating his girlfriend, slamming a toilet seat down on her arm, and throwing her on a bed full of guns.  At least wait until the jury trial.

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If the Big Cat is waiting for the jury trial before taking any action, I think we all should wait as well. We are talking about an owner and team who went through the deal with Rae Carruth. If Hardy's guilty verdict was so convincing, don't you think Hardy would have been disciplined by the team by now? Again I say he was accused of a threat of murder and found guilty, yet was given no more than a wrist slap for a sentence. This tells me even the judge knew she was running a kangaroo court that day. I'm not defending Hardy, he's definitely guilty of stupidity if nothing else. Yet there's doubt he's guilty of beating his girlfriend, slamming a toilet seat down on her arm, and throwing her on a bed full of guns. At least wait until the jury trial.

You have done nothing but defend Hardy and make excuses for him. He lost the trial, and you want to talk about how the accuser was late and smiled. Guess what, he lost the trial and the evidence against him looks damning. Acting like an appeal trial is a sign of innocence is some three blind mice bullshit on your part.

Have a good one, but this whole exchange has been a bummer.

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You have done nothing but defend Hardy and make excuses for him. He lost the trial, and you want to talk about how the accuser was late and smiled. Guess what, he lost the trial and the evidence against him looks damning. Acting like an appeal trial is a sign of innocence is some three blind mice bullshit on your part.

Have a good one, but this whole exchange has been a bummer.

By law he is not considered guilty as he did not accept the judges verdict. Judges typically err on the side of caution in those cases. That guilty verdict basically didn't happen as there is a criminal trial with a jury

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You have done nothing but defend Hardy and make excuses for him. He lost the trial, and you want to talk about how the accuser was late and smiled. Guess what, he lost the trial and the evidence against him looks damning. Acting like an appeal trial is a sign of innocence is some three blind mice bullshit on your part.

Have a good one, but this whole exchange has been a bummer.

 

Defending Hardy is saying he didn't do what is accused of him.  I'm saying I couldn't find him guilty based on the evidence personally, but if I did find him guilty, I would have given him jail time.  In Ray Rice's case, the biggest reason he didn't get jail time was probably because his wife didn't press charges.  Even though the state could have press charges on their own, they left that decision up to his wife.  In Hardy's case, I'm pretty sure his girlfriend was pressing charges on him no?  Or at least would have.  How is it he only got a slap of the wrist for what he was accused of doing?  You are also blatantly ignoring the fact of the whole process in that courtroom.  Most if not all those who were following it, would have found Hardy not guilty.  You can't deny that.  Yet you act like it's all clear cut, like we had video on him and this was nothing but 2+2 mathematics.  How can you, and Schefty, be taken seriously?  If he was that clear cut guilty, there is no way Hardy would be on this team right now.  At the end of the day, he probably won't even be on this team if he's found not guilty with the jury trial.  So I don't understand your irrational jump to your conclusion.

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Defending Hardy is saying he didn't do what is accused of him. I'm saying I couldn't find him guilty based on the evidence personally, but if I did find him guilty, I would have given him jail time. In Ray Rice's case, the biggest reason he didn't get jail time was probably because his wife didn't press charges. Even though the state could have press charges on their own, they left that decision up to his wife. In Hardy's case, I'm pretty sure his girlfriend was pressing charges on him no? Or at least would have. How is it he only got a slap of the wrist for what he was accused of doing? You are also blatantly ignoring the fact of the whole process in that courtroom. Most if not all those who were following it, would have found Hardy not guilty. You can't deny that. Yet you act like it's all clear cut, like we had video on him and this was nothing but 2+2 mathematics. How can you, and Schefty, be taken seriously? If he was that clear cut guilty, there is no way Hardy would be on this team right now. At the end of the day, he probably won't even be on this team if he's found not guilty with the jury trial. So I don't understand your irrational jump to your conclusion.

There is one fact: he was found guilty. I can deny "most it not all that were following it would have found him not guilty" because : 1. that's not true and 2. You know who did find him guilty? The judge, in his trial. I'm not the one ignoring facts, you are.

What? You talked to someone who said that they would have found Hardy innocent? Awesome, that and z dollar will get you a cup of coffee. There is one fact, that he was found guilty. Quit, ignoring it. It's sad. He gets to appeal, and that is super for him, but it is in no way a sign of innocence.

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Stroupe,

you are 100% correct that the only thing that matters is the verdict the judge passed down- but can i ask you if you followed the twitter updates of the trial as it happened. The case really seemed like he was going to be innocent with all the evidence and witnesses they called upon. The answers she gave were so silly (ie. the throwing the weed out of the car, being quoted as saying "he hasn't even seen crazy until tonight", the cops admitting she was seen kicking his car door the weekend before, etc.). It will be interesting if the fiasco happens again when it does go to a jury trial

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