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Any Grateful Dead Fans?

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TheRumGone Grand Master

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Different strokes for different folks. The Dead are sloppy, but so are Hendrix, the stones, led zep and a bunch of other bands that are badass. It doesn't make their music any less enjoyable for me or millions of other people. If you look for tightness in music then they might not be for you. I generally just look for a good groove and playing with feeling.

Sloppiness can be good and bad. Jimi Hendrix, led zep, modest mouse are sloppy live but it works and kind of makes their acts unique. I can't say the same for the dead.

When zep reunited for that aids thing I think in the 80s that was baaaad sloppy

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I think what happened here is you're a dead fan. My comments pissed you off. You posted what you did pretty much calling me a vibe killer instead of you know discussing why the dead are a good band to you. My mind can be swayed, although with the dead it would have to take a lot :-)

tbh, not that big of a fan. i had a few live cds, but i hardly ever listened to them. there were other jam bands i liked a lot more. string cheese incident, leftover salmon, moe, widespread panic...there's a few more that i got into when that scene was a bigger part of my life.

i like Garcia's work outside if the dead more than i did with it. i have spent a lot of time with dead heads, tho, over the years and it's always been about the scene and the culture which centered around the music rather than the music itself. it was really the first of it's kind...i mean the relationship between band and fan. i think that the lyrics spoke to a lot of the people, but it was, from my perspective, the loving and accepting culture that they could feel apart of. it's like a religion. i mean i think they had some good musicians and garcia was immensely talented on several instruments and in a couple different genres, but the dead are revered for more than the music, though the music is at the center if that makes sense. it's kind of the soundtrack to their life, so it's got a lot of...ummm...not nostalgia. not sure what the word i'm looking for here is. it's just something they are emotionally tied to. i like it when people have an attachment to something like that. it's not for me, but I've seen and lived among enough of them to know how important it all is to them and i think it's cool they found something like that for them. despite the effect a lot of the drugs have had on them, i think that they are a group of people who really care about each other for the most part.

i wasn't/am not pissed off, either. i was chilling in bed listening to darrell scott while my baby was napping beside me. like i said, it was just something i had been noticing more and this thread just happened to be the one i shared my thoughts on. again, sorry if it sounded like i was pointing you out. i don't have anything at all against you and i would have made those remarks regardless of who it was killing the vibe (which is kind of embarrassing that i used that phrase, but i couldn't off the cuff think of a better way to put it).

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tbh, not that big of a fan. i had a few live cds, but i hardly ever listened to them. there were other jam bands i liked a lot more. string cheese incident, leftover salmon, moe, widespread panic...there's a few more that i got into when that scene was a bigger part of my life.

i like Garcia's work outside if the dead more than i did with it. i have spent a lot of time with dead heads, tho, over the years and it's always been about the scene and the culture which centered around the music rather than the music itself. it was really the first of it's kind...i mean the relationship between band and fan. i think that the lyrics spoke to a lot of the people, but it was, from my perspective, the loving and accepting culture that they could feel apart of. it's like a religion. i mean i think they had some good musicians and garcia was immensely talented on several instruments and in a couple different genres, but the dead are revered for more than the music, though the music is at the center if that makes sense. it's kind of the soundtrack to their life, so it's got a lot of...ummm...not nostalgia. not sure what the word i'm looking for here is. it's just something they are emotionally tied to. i like it when people have an attachment to something like that. it's not for me, but I've seen and lived among enough of them to know how important it all is to them and i think it's cool they found something like that for them. despite the effect a lot of the drugs have had on them, i think that they are a group of people who really care about each other for the most part.

i wasn't/am not pissed off, either. i was chilling in bed listening to darrell scott while my baby was napping beside me. like i said, it was just something i had been noticing more and this thread just happened to be the one i shared my thoughts on. again, sorry if it sounded like i was pointing you out. i don't have anything at all against you and i would have made those remarks regardless of who it was killing the vibe (which is kind of embarrassing that i used that phrase, but i couldn't off the cuff think of a better way to put it).

I don't wanna type up too much more but my feelings on the dead aren't because my parents were awful druggy parents who listened to the dead or anything like that. I know the culture. I'm from San Fran.

I'm tired of seeing 20 year old children that have dead bears or tie die shirts telling me that jerry garcia saved their life when it's obvious they are rich yuppy kids who don't know the first thing about life.

I also know people whose lives it did change. My first history professor in my first day of college for an ancient civilizations class told us that LSD and the grateful dead brought her to god. And it's why she is a Christian. The class focused on drug use in ancient civilizations and how it helped shape those societies or was a detriment to them. This woman was legit. She explained her experiences touring the country with the dead and dropping LSD. I get it. I've had similar experiences.

They are overrated mostly because of those kids I mentioned before. It's a fad now. When I see those same kids at a moe or widespread show throwing their trash everywhere, having no respect for anybody else's experience while wearing a grateful dead shirt I just roll my eyes and know Garcia is rolling in his grave. They are fuging everywhere in Boone. Great people but full of poo at the same time.

The movement is dead. But their music is another thing for me. I've never felt a connection to it drugs or not and that may or may not have to do with the things I've stated above. I honestly don't think it does.

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Also Ray check out the drive by truckers and lincoln Durham. Durham may be a bit too harsh for your tastes but he is the second coming of son house and jack white... He is a one man wrecking crew

i'm pretty familiar with the truckers. lincoln durham is a new one to me but i checked out a few of his songs on youtube and not too harsh at all (not much is, tbh). i loved it. i totally get the son volt/jack white. a couple others he made me think of is b

the black keys (well, the more raw stuff) and capt beefheart. in fact i was thinking if there was more acoustic beefheart out there it probably would have sounded like that. kind of an acoustic fusion of beefheart and roy estrada. thanks for pointing me in his direction. i've been out of the scene for a few years and there's probably quite a bit more i am missing out on.

and what you were talking about the posers...yeah, they kind of suck but i can remember being one at one point myself. i mean not in the dead scene but when i was in the processnof trying to find where i fit in and who i was i borrowed a lot from other people. i think most people do for a while. it just lasts longer for some people. i know they are having a blast withit, though, and while i shake my head at what they do and where their heads are at, i still think its cool where they are in life because it's the start of finding themselves. my hope is always that they get their poo togethe at some point, but it's hard for me to judge because i was once not too far from then. i may not have been as dumb or destructive, but i was still pretty dumb.

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^it has to be known that the grateful dead are overrated and are a ridiculously sloppy jam band.

This coming from somebody whose mother played grateful dead while I was still in the crib.

Sorry I'm not sorry

Ps. I think black is a great poster

Pps. We are talking about a band not some life issue

Ppps. I saw bob weir with mmj and bob Dylan. He's awful

 

it's been known because that's all you say about The Dead. just shut up already. you don't like The Dead and I don't give a poo to read it every time somebody brings up The Dead.

 

 

 

that said, I like The Dead, I like The Panthers.....would not buy or wear.

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