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panthers55 Grand Master

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I believe the DPoY was Kuechly last year not watt correct? And I never said he was the best player in the league I said it was arguable and not completely dismissable seeing as how he is the best defender in the NFL I don't care if you don't agree with it it's a fact

Of course we were talking defense. Any knowledgable fans knows that you can't compare offensive players to defensive players. Quarterbacks are always going to be the most valuable to any franchise. Luke is the most impactful player on defense. He is the modern day Brian Urlacker. I think of David being what Thomas Davis would have been if he didn't have those botched surgeries. Davis in his prime a few years ago. Nothing against the present day Davis who is an anomaly the way he has come back and played at such a high level.

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DROY and DPOY....not sure who is debating it outside those in one city

Yes, those awards are great...did he earn them, yes he did. Wouldn't have gotten them if he didn't deserve them. But as you stated, each position has a job to do. And each job differs from the 10 other positions out there at any given time on any given play. Don't get me wrong, not saying Kuechly isn't the best at what he does, I've stated numerous times he is the best MLB in the game. But as you said, can't compare one position to the other that easily, if at all when it comes to stats and numbers. Can Kuechly do what Lavonte did if he was a 4-3 OLB on the Bucs...who knows? I'm sure he wouldn't be far off, if at all. And vice versa. 

 

Kuechly has the title at the end of the day, so of course that's what it will always come down to. But no matter what there will always be a debate and there will forever be a debate. 

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Best defender is the league is Watt. Lets get that established now. And if you think Luke Kuechly is the best player in this league then you must have the IQ of a ballon.

 

Where was Houston's defense (led by Watt) ranked last year? How about Carolina's (led by Luke)? Watt's an overhyped luxury at DE. Luke is the QB of the 2nd best defense.

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CRA Grand Master

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Yes, those awards are great...did he earn them, yes he did. Wouldn't have gotten them if he didn't deserve them. But as you stated, each position has a job to do. And each job differs from the 10 other positions out there at any given time on any given play. Don't get me wrong, not saying Kuechly isn't the best at what he does, I've stated numerous times he is the best MLB in the game. But as you said, can't compare one position to the other that easily, if at all when it comes to stats and numbers. Can Kuechly do what Lavonte did if he was a 4-3 OLB on the Bucs...who knows? I'm sure he wouldn't be far off, if at all. And vice versa.

Kuechly has the title at the end of the day, so of course that's what it will always come down to. But no matter what there will always be a debate and there will forever be a debate.

Well...

I will say this, it is nice to have a rep from the Buc fan base that actually can talk football.

David actually reminds me of Thomas Davis to a degree. I actually believe if Davis didn't blow his ACL 3 times and get flopped between S and LB to start his career.....he would have been the greatest LB in our history. Will never know how good Davis could of been which is a shame....but that happens a lot

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