Time for Cam to learn to slide.

[Jeremy Igo]

Ended Renner's career at UNC

See what I mean?

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[TheRed]

Reading this thread one would think that a quarterback could never, has never, and will never get hit or hurt in any way by sliding.

[Jeremy Igo]

Reading this thread one would think that a quarterback could never, has never, and will never get hit or hurt in any way by sliding.

You still aren't getting it.

It is about probabilities. They are much higher for wear and tear when defenders are allowed to hit you.

It isn't difficult.

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[TheRumGone]

You still aren't getting it.

It is about probabilities. They are much higher for wear and tear when defenders are allowed to hit you.

It isn't difficult.

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And you aren't getting it. We are saying the opposite is true.

That probability is higher of him getting hurt sliding then doing what he's been doing the past three years

[DecrypticShadow]

Honestly, I have no idea why it's such a challenge for these talented athletes to learn to slide...

[Guest]

If Cam keeps going head first into his dives he is going to continue to be an open target for defenders.

The obvious thing that needs to happen right now, and by right now I mean this very moment, is for cam to start sliding feet first and taking away the defenses ability to hit him.

Agree?

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While I agree that Cam needs to protect himself better and not become an open target for defenders. The problem with sliding is that it doesn't totally remove the risk of suffering a serious injury, take Brian Hoyer last season against the Bills, he exited the pocket and went to slide but he got hit and tore his ACL. Granted Cam is a better athlete and a lot bigger, but sliding, and diving for that matter, both carry risks of their own in tight quarters where defenders may not always be able to pull out of the hit quickly enough. Now maybe sliding (or diving) will help save Cam from taking some hefty hits, but he could just as easily end up getting hit like Hoyer did and getting hurt. Sliding and diving isn't some magical move that negates the risks when a quarterback is scrambling. Quarterbacks can, and have, got hurt trying to slide and dive.

 

So while I agree that Cam needs to take less hits, how he goes about that will come down to what he feels most comfortable doing. Can he slide? Probably. But last thing they need to do is try to force him to do something that he might be uncomfortable with. 

[TheRed]

You still aren't getting it.

It is about probabilities. They are much higher for wear and tear when defenders are allowed to hit you.

It isn't difficult.

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I personally don't think the probability is any higher if at all the way he does it now versus sliding.

 

At the end of the day, it is football, it's a rough sport, injuries unfortunately happen sometimes.

 

[Jeremy Igo]

And you aren't getting it. We are saying the opposite is true.

That probability is higher of him getting hurt sliding then doing what he's been doing the past three years

You should inform the rest of the entire nfl of your theory. They all believe differently.

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[CRA]

You still aren't getting it.

It is about probabilities. They are much higher for wear and tear when defenders are allowed to hit you.

It isn't difficult.

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I agree....blows are blows and create wear and tear.

But IMO this is a bigger conversation than just that. Newton has rushed 364 times....let's say he slides on roughly 1/3 to 1/2. That is a poo ton of slides where he opens himself up to dangerous illegal hits.....bc defenders aren't going to just assume he is sliding. Not given the number of attempts and his 3rd down conversions. At least when he flops he does his best to brace for impact.....there is no bracing for someone flying at your upper body in a slide.

I think style of play dictates whether sliding is safest.

[TheRumGone]

You should inform the rest of the entire nfl of your theory. They all believe differently.

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don't get snippy with me just because somebody disagrees with your assessment.

 

FOR CAM, what he has been doing has worked. He has protected himself well the past 3 years. Telling somebody to learn something else, specifically someone who is 6 foot 6 is playing with fire.

 

this was a fluke thing.

 

and you really are turning into james dator

[Jeremy Igo]

I agree....blows are blows and create wear and tear.

But IMO this is a bigger conversation than just that. Newton has rushed 364 times....let's say he slide on roughly 1/3. That is a poo ton of slides where he opens himself up to dangerous illegal hits.....bc defenders aren't going to just assume he is sliding. At least when he flops he doesn't his best to brace for impact.....there is no bracing for someone flying at your upper body in a slide.

I think style of play dictates whether sliding is safest.

Yes.

As I said earlier, if Cam has the first down, and not much can be gained by trying for a couple more yards instead of sliding.... Please slide.

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[CRA]

don't get snippy with me just because somebody disagrees with your assessment

and you really are turning into james dator

Oh, snap. WORLDSTAR!

[TheRumGone]

lol

[teeray]

LOL, how does exposing one's head make them safer?

 

Yes they are not "supposed" to hit you, but when the defender sees an opportunity to exit a player like Cam they are not going to hold back.  They will take the 15 yard penalty to get Cam out of the game