Who's the 'Prototype' for the New Age QB? Newton or Luck?

[pstall]

I don't see anyone wanting Luck to take his shirt off

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he would be called Chaka

[Mr. Scot]

Funny

 

I see you can't get away from it, can you (people repeatedly telling you how "the Panther D blew numerous games for Cam that he should have won/got 4th quarter come back credits for, while the media, and some Huddler's "ahem" labelled him a choker)? :cool:

 

You can't make this up. :startle:

 

 

No, but apparently you can :lol:

 

I sometimes forget that your user name also sums up your entire canon of football knowledge, but I'll ask this anyway.

 

Tell me exactly how you blame things like game losing interceptions and bobbled field goal snaps on the defense.

 

Anyone who's actually watched Romo (and I'm betting you haven't) knows what I'm talking about.

[FootballMaestro]

No, but apparently you can :lol:

 

I sometimes forget that your user name also sums up your entire canon of football knowledge, but I'll ask this anyway.

 

Tell me exactly how you blame things like game losing interceptions and bobbled field goal snaps on the defense.

 

Anyone who's actually watched Romo (and I'm betting you haven't) knows what I'm talking about.

 

No, you just wanted to spend all afternoon arguing your point of one argument (for god knows what), when I was only telling you the defense was JUST AS if not MORE RESPONSIBLE for Panther failures in the 4th quarter (which many here seem to agree, remember, unlike you), that Cam got the rap for. Simple. Otherwise, I don't see your point, unless you had an agenda (most likely). You appeared doggedly daft and recalcitrant to be quite honest.

 

Now everyone else is telling you the same in this thread, and you meekly tried to repeat the same argument (no one was listening/buying it; regarding Cam, not Romo), until you just quit. How appropriate. You can't make this up.

 

Couldn't happen to a better self described quasi, wannabee expert (with no apparent memory of recent Panther games). SMH/Hilarious

 

Carry on

[Mr. Scot]

No, you just wanted to spend all afternoon arguing your point of one argument (for god knows what), when I was only telling you the defense was JUST AS if not MORE RESPONSIBLE for Panther failures in the 4th quarter (which many here seem to agree, remember, unlike you), that Cam got the rap for.

 

Simple. Otherwise, I don't see your point, unless you had an agenda (most likely). Otherwise, you appeared quite daft and recalcitrant quite honestly.

 

Now everyone else is telling you the same in this thread, and you meekly tried to repeat the same argument (no one was listening/buying it), until you just quit. How appropriate. You can't make this up.

 

Couldn't happen to a better self described quasi, wannabee expert. SMH/Hilarious

 

Carry on

 

See, here's where you clearly show everyone that you just don't get it.

 

I never absolved the defense or the coaching from their failures.  I just discussed Cam's role in the losses.

 

You don't think he has one because...well, we've already covered that :rolleyes:

 

And to be clear, all that was in the other thread.  And you're one of only two people that have actually debated my points.

 

Most folks get it.  But no matter how patiently it's explained, you don't, and I doubt you will anytime soon.

[FootballMaestro]

See, here's where you clearly show everyone that you just don't get it.

 

I never absolved the defense or the coaching from their failures.  I just discussed Cam's role in the losses.

 

You don't think he has one because...well, we've already covered that :rolleyes:

 

And to be clear, all that was in the other thread.  And you're one of only two people that have actually debated my points.

 

Most folks get it.  But no matter how patiently it's explained, you don't, and I doubt you will anytime soon.

 

Hey, I just didn't appreciate you wasting my time earlier with nonsense, that every one already knew. But for some reason you wanted to argue a failed argument for some inexplicable reason.

 

Now you're being the told the same thing here in this thread, and I'm saying to myself,  "boy I wish he would have found them first". Lol

 

Next time when you wanna come after someone, at least have a memory and some perspective of what you're talking about. When I have the time, I can entertain such nonsense, dribble. But when you're busy, it becomes a bit annoying (with all due respect).

 

For some reason, you were trying to make an argument, everyone already knew the major answer to, except you.

 

Now, let it go, let's move on. It's kool.

[Mr. Scot]

Hey, I just didn't appreciate you wasting my time earlier with nonsense, that every one already knew. But for some reason you wanted to argue a failed argument for some inexplicable reason.

 

Now you're being the told the same thing here in this thread, and I'm saying to myself,  "boy I wish he would have found them first". Lol

 

Next time when you wanna come after someone, at least have a memory and some perspective of what you're talking about. When I have the time, I can entertain such nonsense, dribble. But when you're busy, it becomes a bit annoying (with all due respect).

 

For some reason, you were trying to make an argument, everyone already knew the major answer to, except you.

 

Now, let it go, let's move on. It's kool.

 

You overestimate your importance, kid.

 

I've taken part in probably about a dozen discussions today, all of them simply because I was interested.

 

Now, answer me this: How many discussions not involving Cam Newton have you actively taken part in?  Today or anytime?

 

Spin more if you want.  You're not really accomplishing anything.

[PandaPancake]

You overestimate your importance, kid.

I've taken part in probably about a dozen discussions today, all of them simply because I was interested.

Now, answer me this: How many discussions not involving Cam Newton have you actively taken part in? Today or anytime?

Spin more if you want. You're not really accomplishing anything.

Oh yeah, I bet you don't know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop!

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[Mr. Scot]

Oh yeah, I bet you don't know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop!

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Three, and I didn't even have to look it up.

 

[crowntownpanther]

I don't think it's a matter of cam being inaccurate on the lob pass as much as he hasn't developed the confidence in that throw to the degree has with his hard passes. He errs on the side of keeping it away from the defender instinctively it seems. With KB out there if wouldn't be surprised to see cam develop some more confidence in his deep ball and I expect to see less overthrows by mid season, even when thrown to Cotchery, Avant, And hopefully Bersin.

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[iamhubby1]

Where it comes to athletic ability. I don't see any QB stacking up with Cam. So yes, he is the "Prototype".

Luck is pretty good. He does fine with what they want to do.

Put them together. I will take Cam.

Luck is like Rogers, or any other "Mobile" QB. Which is fine.

Cam is in a different astrosphere. He will take that 5 to 10 yard gain, and turn it into a 20 yard gain, or more. Sure Luck is the same size, and is a good athlete. But...when it comes down to it. Cam can do more, and turn it into a game changing play.

There are some good QBs out there. But there are none that can compare to Cam. We are watching a game changing, HOF type, player. And that, I can live with.

[iamhubby1]

Nice piece. It's pointless to get stuck on the Luck/Newton back and forth, both QB's are legit.

If I were a Colt's fan I would be happy. But being a Panther's fan, I am ecstatic. Luck is doing as well as he can already. Cam is still getting better. That is the one main difference. Cam is going to be one of the best ever. Luck is going to be just another good QB.