Who's the 'Prototype' for the New Age QB? Newton or Luck?

[tiger7_88]

let us know when the reply's kick in

 

 

Definitely wanna see those.  :lol:

 

And did y'all post this on a Colts board?  I'd like to see that too.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Thal]

Luck keeps getting in and out of the 'new wave' QB classification. Luck never set any standards so how the hell could he be a prototype. Dude hasn't won poo in his career. Nobody's trying to be the next Luck. Can't wait for Winston to come to the league so Cam can have a more similar player to be compared to. Luck is in the class of Alex Smith.

How many players will this Luck guy be compared to, goddamn. Any young QB that's doing well on the field and then here come a Luck comparison. Luck vs. Rg3, cam, wilson, jameis, Bridgewater......

[tiger7_88]

Luck puts a nice touch on the ball, and can lob it nicely with precision right over a defender. Cam hasn't really developed that side of his passing game. He most throws rockets, and it's not unusual for him to throw a pass so far off the mark that fans will do a double take. Cam will also go long stretches (more than 1 quarter) where he doesn't throw a good pass. Luck imo is more consistent. I would give the edge to Luck in passing, and Cam in running. 

 

 

When comparing their first two seasons, Luck compiled slightly more passing yards (8,196 to Cam’s 7,920) and touchdown passes (46 to 40) while throwing less interceptions (27 to 29). Newton’s completion percentage is higher (58.8% to Luck’s 57%), he’s been sacked less (71 to 73), and he’s fumbled less (15 to 16). All of these numbers come out as a wash. If you were to take the stats, put them in a bag and shake them up, you never be able to decipher the Luck stats from Newton’s numbers.

 

 

 

Hmmmmm...

[tiger7_88]

I've watched a few Colts games with Luck, and I've seen every pass Cam has ever made with the Panthers. That means I'm lacking in evaluating Luck's passing. If you guys are saying that Luck makes as many wild throws as Cam, then I'll take your word for it. That would certainly even things out between the two of them.

 

 

Maybe that's one of the reasons Cam's completion percentage is higher than Luck's.  You ever thought about that?

[LinvilleGorge]

Luck keeps getting in and out of the 'new wave' QB classification. Luck never set any standards so how the hell could he be a prototype. Dude hasn't won poo in his career. Nobody's trying to be the next Luck. Can't wait for Winston to come to the league so Cam can have a more similar player to be compared to. Luck is in the class of Alex Smith.

How many players will this Luck guy be compared to, goddamn. Any young QB that's doing well on the field and then here come a Luck comparison. Luck vs. Rg3, cam, wilson, jameis, Bridgewater......

 

Honestly, Luck is a better comparison to Cam than Winston is.  Jameis is pretty much a pure pocket passer.  Luck is a better runner than him.

[MichaelNewtonII]

Wow this was a great article most enjoyable I've read in a while

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[tiger7_88]

If you could refer to this post before saying he was continuing his point. And yes you were being aggressive by saying "lord help you" which is insulting and then saying "Your retort continues to be factless" is also a dig at him. Then to top it off you end the conversation by saying "Have a nice day" which after basically insulting him you are stating that your point supersedes anything he could possibly say.

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[MichaelNewtonII]

Honestly, Luck is a better comparison to Cam than Winston is. Jameis is pretty much a pure pocket passer. Luck is a better runner than him.

I think we'll get to see him run more at the next level I'm pretty sure he's a better runner than luck but doesn't have to show it often against acc competition he can sit there and pick apart

[Panfan7]

I think it all goes back to before he got drafted, he is a project, his game will not translate to the nfl, cam can't comprehend a nfl offense. We all herd the so called experts then when cam came out on fire and proved everyone wrong that alway tried to find something negative to write to justify why he is not a good qb or question his leadership maybe one day everyone will just admit they were wrong about cam and that he is every bit as talented as luck.

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[FootballMaestro]

Understandable. But there are certain players playing certain position that are rooted for excessively to succeed and people are excited because they're playing a style considered foreign to their identity. Those players transcend fan-base. Luck, T3bow, and Manziel are those guys. Nothing wrong with that though but don't sell me they're some prototype that are being emulated nationally at the pee-wee level. The trend right now is fast guys are playing the QB position too. Luck is not a fast guy. All humans can run. Even Peyton can run if he's asked to but not all humans are fast. Cam is fast. Luck is not.

 

In before, someone says "Luck and Newton run similar 40 times (though it appeared Cam didn't get a clean start out of the blocks, and we know how much more shifty, instinctive and elusive Newton is as a runner, along with his enormous size)". Lol

[LinvilleGorge]

I think we'll get to see him run more at the next level I'm pretty sure he's a better runner than luck but doesn't have to show it often against acc competition he can sit there and pick apart

 

He ran 11 times for 26 yards against Auburn in the national championship game.  It's not that he's unwilling to run, it's that he's too slow to be effective doing so.  He ran the ball 88 times last year for 219 yards.  That's a 2.5ypc average.  His longest run was 21 yards.  His best rushing game was 67 yards, but he did that on 14 carries for a 4.5ypc average.

 

He isn't Byron Leftwich slow, but he's nowhere near as fast as the guys who are currently having success being dual threat QBs in the NFL.  He's probably gonna run in the 4.8 range.  That's roughly the same time Peyton Manning ran at the combine when he was coming out of college 47 years ago.

 

Jameis is a pocket passer.  People just see the color of his skin and want to assume the guy can run.

[Mr. Scot]

They both are the prototype.

 

I'd actually vote 'neither', specifically because I don't believe such a thing as a 'New Age QB' exists.

 

Quarterbacks that can both run and pass have been around for decades.

 

It's not new.

 

[Pox 08]

Cam isn't the most accurate qb...but over the last two years....  he has been more accurate than Luck.              Luck and Cam both have some "WTF" kind of throws...   the difference being....  Cam wasn't billed as the greatest prospect since Elway.    Luck was.           All the drooling they did over Luck,  the media is going to go slow with him,  bashing him will be the last thing they do.

 

Cam... it doesn't matter.. most of the media hated him as he came out,  so they will be quick to jump on any bandwagon that involves bashing Cam.

[LinvilleGorge]

In before, someone says "Luck and Newton run similar 40 times (though it appeared Cam didn't get a clean start out of the blocks, and we know how much more shifty, instinctive and elusive Newton is as a runner, along with his enormous size)". Lol

 

You're trying to be sarcastic, but in doing so, you're actually making a point.  In a straight line, Luck and Cam have similar speed.  The difference is that Cam gets up to speed quicker, he's far more agile, and has better vision and instincts as a runner than Luck.  Being a good runner in football is about more than just speed.  Speed certainly helps and at some point becomes a detriment if you don't have enough of it, but just because two guys run at a similar speed on a track doesn't mean they'll produce similar results running with the ball on a football field.