What do you guys make of the Cam haters still out there today?

[Verge]

One of my friends stated he has so many rushing touchdowns because he is stupid and not smart enough to figure out plays to throw it in the end zone. Granted, he also thinks Matt Ryan is a top 5 qb.

[Jangler]

fug'em

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

One of my friends stated he has so many rushing touchdowns because he is stupid and not smart enough to figure out plays to throw it in the end zone. Granted, he also thinks Matt Ryan is a top 5 qb.

Yeah this is how Joe fan thinks at times.

Why would you have a giant who can basically fall forward for 6 run it in when you can try passing from inside the 5 and attempt to score touchdowns the 'smart' way.

[Ricky Spanish]

Dude I work with was talking about how Cam is the problem in Carolina... Said he was immature and never prepared for games...

 

I gave him the jags fan and sat back down. 

[teeray]

you draw a line down the middle of the world, and half the people above it are smarter than

half the people below it. But all have opinions.

Are you saying that people who live below the equator are not as smart as people who live above it?

[Jangler]

anybody that lives in Antarctic is pretty damn stupid.

 

 

wait....

[footballisasport]

Oy :unsure:

 

Yes, there are racists out there, but I think it's pretty lazy to assume everybody who doesn't like Cam is a racist or a closet racist.  That's just silly.

 

For one, a pretty good contingent out of the "hater" parade are Alabama fans, Saint/Buc/Falcon fans, other NFL team fans, etc.  To be honest, I don't really give a rat's ass about their opinions because they're always going to be slanted.  Ask a Panther fan for a fair assessment of Matt Ryan and you'll get the same.  Big deal.

 

Panther fans though?  Based on what I hear from them, I'd say some are probably just pricks, but the majority of what I hear screams one primary thing:

 

Lack...of football knowledge.

 

First off, you've got a guy playing in his first preseason game after ankle surgery (a big deal for a QB, even one that doesn't run like Cam does) alongside teammates with whom he's only minimally practiced.  You seriously expected him to look good under those conditions?  What the hell were you thinking?

 

Beyond that though, and arguably more important, his performance last night was a sign of progress.

 

You heard me...Progress!

 

Why?  Because the Cam Newton of his first two years (you know, the one with crazy stats but a lousy win-loss record) was a guy who'd start games like a house on fire but then fade the longer the game went on.  He wasn't a finisher, and his record showed it.

 

The Cam Newton of last year?  Whole other story.

 

That Cam Newton might have started his fair share of games cold (most gunslingers do) but the longer the game went on, the better he got.  Hence, way more game winning drives than you'd seen at any time in his prior years.  And yeah, lesser stats, but a significantly improved win-loss record.  And that, ladies and gentlemen, is progress!

 

Heck, given the conditions, I wouldn't have been surprised if Newton had played his entire game like he did the first quarter.  But he didn't, and I'd argue that anybody who doesn't see that as a positive probably has a lot to learn about real world football.

 

Cam, just like many of the rookie QBs had their adjustment phase in the NFL. Cam's was more obvious because he was always under the microscope and didn't have any real solid and consistant offensive weapons around him, outside of Smitty, in 2011. Also one must keep in mind that it had to be exhausting as a young rookie QB to be putting up numbers and watching your defense squander them all away and u get blamed because u didn't put up numbers every quarter. 

 

Interestingly enough, As a rookie, Luck didn't play strong all four quar'ts. He came to life in the fourth quarter and was the benefactor of some lucky breaks. Russell, Colin, and RG ebb and flowed at different times for their team. Not one of those QBs played strong for all four quarters. But it was clear folks simply wanted to say Cam will never be because or He's good but never good enough. It seemed as if many wanted to mold Cam into the prototype of a perfect QB. Someone that doesn't exist.

[FuFuLamePoo]

one of your first problems is listening to wfnz

[FootballMaestro]

Cam, just like many of the rookie QBs had their adjustment phase in the NFL. Cam's was more obvious because he was always under the microscope and didn't have any real solid and consistant offensive weapons around him, outside of Smitty, in 2011. Also one must keep in mind that it had to be exhausting as a young rookie QB to be putting up numbers and watching your defense squander them all away and u get blamed because u didn't put up numbers every quarter. 

 

Interestingly enough, As a rookie, Luck didn't play strong all four quar'ts. He came to life in the fourth quarter and was the benefactor of some lucky breaks. Russell, Colin, and RG ebb and flowed at different times for their team. Not one of those QBs played strong for all four quarters. But it was clear folks simply wanted to say Cam will never be because or He's good but never good enough. It seemed as if many wanted to mold Cam into the prototype of a perfect QB. Someone that doesn't exist.

Newton, also carried a heavier burden than those other young QB's as well. So even if the defense didn't blow leads, you would expect him to be tired (as you mentioned in your own way) from having to do so much.

 

RG3 had the benefit of Alfred Morris rushing for 1500 yards. Colin Kaepernick, had the advantage--of well, everything (lol) on the 49ers. Russell Wilson, had Beast mode to hand off to. Even Luck, had a defense that didn't' blow leads for him (regardless of how bad they were earlier in the game), and good coaching--as the others. Rivera wasn't the best coach in the world his first two years, especially at holding onto leads. And of course, all those young QB's WR's caught the ball.

 

But some of this site appear blithely cognizant of it all. 

[shelbypanther]

I never thought Cam had it between the ears enough to comprehend an NFL playbook.  I never thought he would keep his nose clean off the field.

 

Two big whiffs.  A big old poo sandwich for me, and happy about it. ^_^

[footballisasport]

I don't think you can leave 'preferred college or pro team' out of that mix, and I'd probably put it high.

 

 

I agree. I believe that should be number one, especially college teams.

 

I've always felt that a lot of the hate that was/is generated towards Cam is  because no one really knew/know him. And most Panther fans simply saw/see him as an end to their team'' means. When one is a blank slate, some folks find it easy to project their fears, insecurities, prejudices, and whatever else unto him/her. 

 

During his short lived years at UF, The Golden Calf of Bristol was the star QB. In Jr. College, he took his team to their first championship but he left as quickly as he came. His time at Auburn was short lived, successful but marred thanks to the media. Plus let's not walkabout the already simmering college rivalry between Auburn and other SEC colleges. That made it easy to hate him because no one knew him. He had no established followers.  He didn't come into the NFL with a built in fan base like Luck, RG, The Golden Calf of Bristol, and Manzeil. Even some of the Auburn fans were suspicious of Cam and didn't see him as a real Auburn Tiger because of his short stint playing for and helping to win the NCAA championship for the college.

 

And whatever likeability factor he had was well tarnished by those in the media by the time he got to the NFL, during the draft and pretty much his first and second year as a rookie.. Replaced was a belief that one can criticize Cam for any and everything because it was easy.

[footballisasport]

I never thought Cam had it between the ears enough to comprehend an NFL playbook.  I never thought he would keep his nose clean off the field.

 

Two big whiffs.  A big old poo sandwich for me, and happy about it. ^_^

 

And why did feel that way, honestly?

 

I am not saying u share that perception, But I honestly feel that there is a very false built in perception towards black players, especially when they want to play the QB position. 

 

Cam was automatically painted into someone like Manziel, despite the reality. His on and off the field actions were speculated and scrutinized to the point where folks were turning everything he did into a concern. LOL

[Frizzy350]

Lol at that.

 

However Anderson does look good every time he's in the game.  Probably should have gotten another shot at being a starter somewhere.  Really lucky we have him if anything should happen to Cam.

 

I think Anderson is happy here.  I get the feeling he's just going to do what he can as Cam's trusty back-up until he retires and lives a good peaceful life.  He's never struck me as a guy who likes the spotlight on him.

[Frizzy350]

One of my friends stated he has so many rushing touchdowns because he is stupid and not smart enough to figure out plays to throw it in the end zone. Granted, he also thinks Matt Ryan is a top 5 qb.

 

If I was a 6 foot 6 240+ lb battle tank that was faster than anyone on the opposing front 7 I'd be running it in too.

 

If I can bring either a gun or a knife to a fight, I'm taking the gun every time.  I don't care if you think I'm stupid, I've got a gun :P