Stewart on the practice field

[TheRumGone]

This is part of their premium stat package, so they only listed the top 10 (actually the  bottom 10) and DWill wasn't part of that group.

 

Stew has had a few memorable crushing blocks, so people tend to assume he is good at that part of the game, but much of it has to do with picking up assignments, and apparently he is not so good once you get beyond the highlight reel stuff.

 

it was a little more than that for me. my eyes told me something different.

 

i'm wondering how they gauge that info. how many times has stew been on 3rd down passing situations pass blocking compared to dlo. how often has jstew been asked to pass block compared to dlo. its not about comparing stew to other rb in the league. its about comparing jstew to dlo. because they are the two backs on our team, obviously.

 

i'm really not arguing either way but it would be interesting to see those numbers. like someone else has said keek was one of their most overrated players, idk. numbers have more meaning behind them most of the time but sometimes not.

 

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Williams missed games in 2009 and 2010.

2011 - Stewart played more reps than Williams, played a larger % of the offensive snaps than any RB in the NFCS. In 2011, Syewart made us the most diverse offense and that is he was on the field the most. Williams was the "starter" in name.

2012 - Williams again had the starter in name designation and a couple games in Rivera made it official....and said Stewart was the starter.

Then Stewart for hurt.....and Williams has been the guy bc Stewart couldn't get healthy.

 

how many games has Stewart missed since 2008?

 

2011 yet d will had the better stats....Stewart with his majority snaps like you stated only surpassed him in receiving which i've acknowledge he exceeds d will at

 

2012 again can't say that was the best idea

 

Williams has been the guy cause he is the reliable one and can handle starter carries and role compared to Stewart,not as some "hey your just the starter until this guy we've been waiting on 2 years to play is ready"

[Marguide]

Except it proves nothing really. PFF has their own system for employing 'raw' numbers.

Stewie picks on blitzes and his assignments considerably well. There's no misconception here at all. In the blocking aspect, J-Stew is still superior in that area over D-Will.

 

Playing devil's advocate, what do you have to back up that statement?

 

I watch all the games too, generally several times. It does not appear obvious at all to me that Stew is superior in the blocking department compared to DWill or Tolbert or whoever.

 

But there is no point in belaboring the issue. Some will choose to take the PFF data into account, others won't. All of our backs have their moments, good and bad.

[Cpt slay a ho]

2012 - he lost us the Seattle game

2013 - Seattle again

HUGE fumbles....cost us both Seattle games

 

lmao he lost us the game in 2012.........Cam's my boy but we had a chance to win if not for that duck he threw,you can't put that on Williams.........now 2013 is a different story he played a big role in that loss

[CRA]

how many games has Stewart missed since 2008?

 

2011 yet d will had the better stats....Stewart with his majority snaps like you stated only surpassed him in receiving which i've acknowledge he exceeds d will at

 

2012 once again can't say that was the best idea

 

Williams has been the guy cause he is the reliable one and can handle starter carries and role compared to Stewart not as some "hey your just the starter until this guy we've been waiting on 2 years to play is ready"

2011....Stewart made the team better. He was more diverse. He was better. Why he lead the division in % of plays. Williams had more rush yards bc he was less diverse....came in to do a job and didn't help set everything else up.

2012....Sure it was. Rivera knows what he is doing.

Last season, Williams finally edged out Stewart in regards to suiting up more. Overblown.

[CRA]

lmao he lost us the game in 2012.........Cam's my boy but we had a chance to win if not for that duck he threw,you can't put that on Williams.........now 2013 is a different story he played a big role in that loss

Should of never been in that spot. Cam missing the throw doesn't erase Williams blunder before it. That was a HUGE fumble...

[Cpt slay a ho]

2011....Stewart made the team better. He was more diverse. He was better. Why he lead the division in % of plays. Williams had more rush yards bc he was less diverse....came in to do a job and didn't help set everything else up.

2012....Sure it was. Rivera knows what he is doing.

Last season, Williams finally edged out Stewart in regards to suiting up more. Overblown.

 

still neglecting to answer how many games Stewart has missed since 2008 aye?

 

let me get this correct he had more rushing yards because he was less diverse and didn't set everything up? wut? that makes little sense

 

2012 again not offense to the coach but he didn't show he knew what he was doing until 2013 and there are numerous examples of that

[Cpt slay a ho]

Should of never been in that spot. Cam missing the throw doesn't erase Williams blunder before it.

 

just like d wills blunder doesn't erase that bad throw.........

[CPantherKing]

I believe he restructured as well didn't he? D will is a good guy all around, work ethic, player on and off the field and does his best. He has the best ball security out of all the backs, even when he fumbled in the season opener last year.  

 

If Stewart goes down again this year. I would not be the least surprised if he is cut next year, when the dead weight on his contract won't be so hard to swallow. I'm sure Gettleman knows this. He's a freaking genius. 

 

Cannot cut Stewart untill 2016 without a big hit.

[CRA]

still neglecting to answer how many games Stewart has missed since 2008 aye?

 

let me get this correct he had more rushing yards because he was less diverse and didn't set everything up? wut? that makes little sense

 

2012 again not offense to the coach but he didn't show he knew what he was doing until 2013 and there are numerous examples of that

Heading in last season.....they both had missed 9 games.

Counting last season, 10 more for 28.

It isn't difficult, Stewart played the largest % of snaps of any NFCS RB bc he was BETTER overall than Williams. He fit better in the O....which also meant setting up other players to have success. That is why he was on the field. Williams came in to run. Stewart ran, caught, blocked, played read with Cam (28 is by far the best read RB....and set Cam up great, Williams is painful to watch).

Only thing Rivera has shown he struggled with in Carolina is game management. Not X's and O's and personnel. Him not having a bodies isn't on Rivera.

[CRA]

just like d wills blunder doesn't erase that bad throw.........

No one making Cam excuses though....just Williams ones.

Seattle did nothing that game offensively.....Williams gave them the one score and forced us into a comeback

[Cpt slay a ho]

Heading in last season.....they both had missed 9 games.

Counting last season, 10 more for 28.

It isn't difficult, Stewart played the largest % of snaps of any NFCS RB bc he was BETTER overall than Williams. He fit better in the O....which also meant setting up other players to have success. That is why he was on the field. Williams came in to run. Stewart ran, caught, blocked, played read with Cam (28 is by far the best read RB....and set Cam up great, Williams is painful to watch).

Only thing Rivera has shown he struggled with in Carolina is game management. Not X's and O's and personnel. Him not having a bodies isn't on Rivera.

this was painful to read......Stewart was a better fit with chuds offense....the same guy our players ran out of here because he got too cute with play-calling, same guy who gets fired after one season.

 

d will is the better fit now with Shula's o, Stewart ran the read option better then Williams......come on that's false Williams most explosive plays come from the read option(49ers,Atl 2013)

 

The same Rivera who started nakmura and fua, coaches make mistakes

 

[CPantherKing]

still neglecting to answer how many games Stewart has missed since 2008 aye?

 

let me get this correct he had more rushing yards because he was less diverse and didn't set everything up? wut? that makes little sense

 

2012 again not offense to the coach but he didn't show he knew what he was doing until 2013 and there are numerous examples of that

 

Stewart has missed 19 of 96 games. 17 over the past 2 seasons.

 

Thomas Davis has missed 26 of 128 games.

 

DeAngelo Williams has missed 17 of 128 games

 

Charles Johnson has missed 19 of 112 games

 

Ryan Kalil has missed 26 of 112 games.

 

Get rid of them all. What a waste of talent and a draft pick. You can never count on them. Oh wait. They come back stronger when they heal up. Let me rethink this.

[Cpt slay a ho]

This just confirms you're either an idiot, blind OR just spiteful towards Stewie. There's not much to say beyond this point.

 

did you even read what i quoted before you start going off half cocked? CRA stated d will had more yards because he was less diverse and didn't set things up.....does that even make since

 

and this is coming from the same guy that's in denial about Stewart's pass blocking skills, with stats to prove so............yet im the blind one

 

i'm not spiteful it's amazing your crowning a guy better who doesn't see the field, that's like saying d rose is better then john wall when he hasn't played in two seasons.........