Josh Norman - For Better Or Worse

[ed bell]

I've heard it said 1000 times, this defense is run through schemes and the interchangeable parts must conform to the scheme through location and responsibilities. The knock on Norman, as I understood it, was that he wouldn't consistently execute his responsibilities in the scheme. I don't care if you have Revis, if he won't do his job as expected on the field, he undermines the scheme. Maybe that is finally sinking in for Norman.

[Jackofalltrades]

I want him off my football team...period, he gave up multiple 1st downs before that int. He will cost us when it counts

Because he was the only one that made mistakes.

[Rise of The Hive]

I saw him finally in a game and had to do a double take.

[General_Purr]

I like seeing him play against cocky deuche teams.. like the 49ers.... seattle... saints.. rams..

 

We need some fire to keep it rollin' but agreed we don't need useless penalties. Can give a game away real quick.

[Mol3m4n]

I don't know why people are saying that they hate Norman trash talking. That's the thing I like most about him. I love someone that is tough and can get in someone's face. To me it shows such passion for the game. Why did we all love Smith and Mitchell? It was because of the same attitude that Norman displays.

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[Mojo]

The people who like Norman recognize that fighter spirit or have a friend that's similar. Those that don't. Don't. He's the guy you always bring around because he's in it to win. But he's the same guy that starts a fight u dont want or need to get into. He reminds me of friends from home so i luh the guy. May be biased.

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[MV%doe]

One thing I really like about norman, is he isn't scared to tackle. He has a almost safety like mind about hitting the person with the ball, man do I love that in a CB! Most times CB tackling is letting them past you and tackling form a side or back. Norman will meet you head-on and not care about the pain or injury factor. I still remember Norman being among the leaders in tackles as a CB during his rookie years(like 66 I think), a fantasy nut that enjoys IDP leagues sure was tankful for those few games!! Just stay out the dog house and be smart, then a new career will happen.

[davos]

We don't use a dime package. Luke and TD never leave the field.

 

Precisely 

[Who Said What?]

He wasn't last night.

 

Well hell, neither was Melvin White, Cpt. Munnerlyn, Josh Thomas, or Drayton Florence last preseason.  They all started over him though in our 12-4 NFC championship season last year.

[Cam's New Arm]

We don't use a dime package. Luke and TD never leave the field.

 

What is this package actually called? Like what personnel? 

 

4 down linemen

2 backers

 

your other guys rotate in and out to match their opposite. Not a bad base. Always set for run, always set for pressure.

 

What would this be, on Madden, for example? 

[SCMunnerlyn1]

What is this package actually called? Like what personnel? 

 

4 down linemen

2 backers

 

your other guys rotate in and out to match their opposite. Not a bad base. Always set for run, always set for pressure.

 

What would this be, on Madden, for example? 

Nickel

[Vagrant]

The thing about Norman is that he's a playmaker at CB and as a result he's a risk taker. His blown coverages are going to show up on the score sheet and his good reads probably have a good chance to do the same. He's not playing for base hits. That's the positive and negative of Norman. He doesn't let the play come to him naturally. He doesn't embrace the fact that his first job is to make sure his cover doesn't get open. He wants the ball coming his way because he wants the chance to make a play on it. And this defensive philosophy is about being risk averse in the secondary and letting the the pass rush do what they do. He's the kind of guy that can have 2 interceptions in a game and you're still not sure if he played well because of how many times he guessed wrong and gave up chunks of yardage before the pass rush could reach the quarterback.

 

We need CB's that realize their job is not to be noticed. To position themselves so that the ball doesn't come their way but be prepared for the chance that it may and do everything you can once the ball is in the air to deny the WR's chances and not focus exclusively on your own chances of picking it off. Creating turnovers should be something that a defense does naturally and not something you have to force.

 

With that said, I am a Josh Norman fan. I like him. I like his fire. I think if we can get him on board with the idea that a pass defended on 3rd down is just as important as an interception then he can have a place here. Or even better that coverage so strong that the QB avoids you all game is the ideal outcome of any play.

[Fox007]

As long as we don't have to see Godfrey cover anyone in any live game I'm cool with whoever.

[Snake]

Its his inconsistency that kills him. That's his biggest problem.