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Barnwell: Re-caging the Panthers


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Before everyone gets out the pitchforks and claim that Barnwell is no better than Adam Schien and Peter King, keep in mind that he went on record last year saying that our win total should improve because our record in close games was a statistical anomaly, he's just saying there likely is some reversion to the mean with close games, and that the Panthers didn't have an offseason that appeared to show much of an improvement (on paper). He also basically said the same thing about the Falcons last year, likely to show regression from the previous season and not likely to have such a strong winning record in close games.

 

He's also been pretty firmly entrenched in saying that the media narrative last season about the Panthers winning because Cam supposedly matured was garbage (that he's been the same guy all along and that he's had to carry the offense on his back moreso than many of the guys he is compared to), that Hurney's contracts were a lot of the reason that we don't have the talent that we should have at other positions, etc. A lot of his logic for predicting the regression is sound, and I hope he's wrong, but it's not the typical unresearched BS that we have to hear in most cases.

 

Agreed.  I mentioned it the other day.

 

 

We were lucky.

 

We were healthy.

 

We are playing (as it looks right now) a very hard schedule.

 

 

Expecting 9-10 wins over here.

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I don't agree that the offense will be worse than last year. I think we will go back to a lot of 2 tight end sets and with the addition of larger taller receivers will play to Cam's strengths.  Assuming Stewart does play, the running game should be better.  I think the defense will actually be better this year as the players will be able to play without overthinking.

 

Honestly the difference between 10 wins and 12 wins isn't that much so while I think we will actually be better, I wouldn't be surprised if we only won 10 instead of 12.  It isn't just about how we play but how other team's stack us against us on any given Sunday.  It is pretty safe to say we will take a step back from 12-4 given that very few teams win that many games each year no matter who they are.

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The Defense will keep us in each game for the most part.  I think they are a bit better than last year, but will need to be as our division will be better.

 

I thik the offens can be about the same, but that is not saying much.  The running game needs to develop, which means that the opposing coaches have to fear our passing game.  The Oline might even be a draw.  Losing Gross but having a solid interior three.  I think our WR corps as a whole can actually be better than last years group.  Really good competition with the WR Corps and the DB's.  This generally is a good sign.  If we dodge injuries, and Cam can develop further, we can do 11 wins.

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Agreed.  I mentioned it the other day.

 

 

We were lucky.

 

We were healthy.

 

We are playing (as it looks right now) a very hard schedule.

 

 

Expecting 9-10 wins over here.

 

Are you talking about last season? We had quite a few injuries, especially on the Oline.

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This is the BS I was talking about in the Thread I started a few days ago. The Media will not give us any credit. Also they need to get their facts straight.

Yes Jordan Gross was good but not our best player on offense. Also our line was an injured mess starting 3rd and 4th string gaurds which wont be the case this year.

If Steve Smith was "Carolina’s best wide receiver by a comfortable margin last season" it did't show on the stat sheet. Cotchery had 10tds last season and was big for the Steelers in the redzone something we lacked last year.

"Safety Mike Mitchell, the team’s enforcer" this may be true but who knows how he will perform without our front seven. Decoud is a solid replacement. Hell Mitchell didn't even start for us to begin the season.

 

I could keep ranting but I'm sure you catch my drift.

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This in my opinion is just poor writing.   Had this been written a week ago prior to TC it would have been an argument.   However, we have been in TC for over a week.  You're telling me he doesn't read tweets or go down and watch TC before he writes an article.   Seems to me it is more like.... "Let me get this out before all the good reports on DB, WR and OT get to the public"    The average fan that reads this garbage outside of Carolina are bobbing their heads in agreement but the Carolina faithful know better.  Which is OK by us.  This garbage is nothing more than locker room motivation.

 

I think the news of Bene and Cason doing well blows his argument out of the water on the "building an entire unit out of spare part". 

 

WR we have 7 receivers in the hunt for roughly 5 spots.  Everyone of them making a case as to why they belong on this team.   When Pilares, Bersin, King or Lucas gets cut chances are they aren't going to remain unemployed too long.  Word surely has gone out about their good training camps.

 

OT has been a battle but IMO most of us feel a little better than we did before training camp.   I think the biggest concern about the OT spot is depth.  Who is going to play behind these guys especially since Garry Williams is experiencing some swelling.

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This in my opinion is just poor writing. Had this been written a week ago prior to TC it would have been an argument. However, we have been in TC for over a week. You're telling me he doesn't read tweets or go down and watch TC before he writes an article. Seems to me it is more like.... "Let me get this out before all the good reports on DB, WR and OT get to the public" The average fan that reads this garbage outside of Carolina are bobbing their heads in agreement but the Carolina faithful know better. Which is OK by us. This garbage is nothing more than locker room motivation.

I think the news of Bene and Cason doing well blows his argument out of the water on the "building an entire unit out of spare part".

WR we have 7 receivers in the hunt for roughly 5 spots. Everyone of them making a case as to why they belong on this team. When Pilares, Bersin, King or Lucas gets cut chances are they aren't going to remain unemployed too long. Word surely has gone out about their good training camps.

OT has been a battle but IMO most of us feel a little better than we did before training camp. I think the biggest concern about the OT spot is depth. Who is going to play behind these guys especially since Garry Williams is experiencing some swelling.

TC is not an indicator of how a team will play during the season. Not even remotely close. Hell, half the stuff they have implemented won't even be used in games. Instead, it'll be tacked on during closed practices.

Preseason game number 3 is the best indicator of how your team will play during the season. Not 8 days into TC.

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TC is not an indicator of how a team will play during the season. Not even remotely close. Hell, half the stuff they have implemented won't even be used in games. Instead, it'll be tacked on during closed practices.

Preseason game number 3 is the best indicator of how your team will play during the season. Not 8 days into TC.

 

Don't try and lecture me about what the difference is.  You half read what I write because you got some bone up your carcASS because you disagree with everything I write.

 

The garbage he spews in his write up doesn't take anything worthwhile into account.   If you are going to write an article about a team and have SOME information available about what the replacement players are bringing to the table it is far better than the crap he wrote from his toilet bowl thrown.

 

Who ever said anything about how the team will play.  My comments were directed at the individuals that are filling new roles and how the writer doesn't take any of it in his article.  

 

Training Camp is for individuals to set a pecking order.   Show that you want it more than the next guy.  While there are your AE that are TC superstars there are also your Melvin White's and Robert Lester's (Bersin and Lucas come to mind in 2014) who step up and show they deserve a deeper look than veterans that you may have signed during the offseason.  

 

So what you are telling me is that the DG, RR and staff haven't created a pecking order yet.  You think that Bersin and Underwood are the same because we haven't reached Week three of the preseason.   Remember Week three is when the starters play the most in a preseason game.   If you believe that... YOU"RE WRONG.  

 

Guys that are showing up in TC are going to set the pecking order of who plays when in pre-season.   Guys like Bersin, Lucas and King are going to get quality time with the #1 and #2 units while McNutt and Underwood and others will be scraping for playing time with the 3rd team.

 

If King shows he has the speed that Underwood is suppose to have.  At this moment our Staff is thinking King is the answer NOT Underwood. 

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Don't try and lecture me about what the difference is.  You half read what I write because you got some bone up your carcASS because you disagree with everything I write.

 

The garbage he spews in his write up doesn't take anything worthwhile into account.   If you are going to write an article about a team and have SOME information available about what the replacement players are bringing to the table it is far better than the crap he wrote from his toilet bowl thrown.

 

Who ever said anything about how the team will play.  My comments were directed at the individuals that are filling new roles and how the writer doesn't take any of it in his article.  

 

Training Camp is for individuals to set a pecking order.   Show that you want it more than the next guy.  While there are your AE that are TC superstars there are also your Melvin White's and Robert Lester's (Bersin and Lucas come to mind in 2014) who step up and show they deserve a deeper look than veterans that you may have signed during the offseason.  

 

So what you are telling me is that the DG, RR and staff haven't created a pecking order yet.  You think that Bersin and Underwood are the same because we haven't reached Week three of the preseason.   Remember Week three is when the starters play the most in a preseason game.   If you believe that... YOU"RE WRONG.  

 

Guys that are showing up in TC are going to set the pecking order of who plays when in pre-season.   Guys like Bersin, Lucas and King are going to get quality time with the #1 and #2 units while McNutt and Underwood and others will be scraping for playing time with the 3rd team.

 

If King shows he has the speed that Underwood is suppose to have.  At this moment our Staff is thinking King is the answer NOT Underwood. 

 

The salt in your tears is delicious.

 

Since you get so angry, and think I already do have something against (I've only replied to like six of your posts, ever), then I'm definitely going to start trolling every fuging thing you say in any thread. Good luck. :)

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Don't try and lecture me about what the difference is.  You half read what I write because you got some bone up your carcASS because you disagree with everything I write.

 

The garbage he spews in his write up doesn't take anything worthwhile into account.   If you are going to write an article about a team and have SOME information available about what the replacement players are bringing to the table it is far better than the crap he wrote from his toilet bowl thrown.

 

Who ever said anything about how the team will play.  My comments were directed at the individuals that are filling new roles and how the writer doesn't take any of it in his article.  

 

Training Camp is for individuals to set a pecking order.   Show that you want it more than the next guy.  While there are your AE that are TC superstars there are also your Melvin White's and Robert Lester's (Bersin and Lucas come to mind in 2014) who step up and show they deserve a deeper look than veterans that you may have signed during the offseason.  

 

So what you are telling me is that the DG, RR and staff haven't created a pecking order yet.  You think that Bersin and Underwood are the same because we haven't reached Week three of the preseason.   Remember Week three is when the starters play the most in a preseason game.   If you believe that... YOU"RE WRONG.  

 

Guys that are showing up in TC are going to set the pecking order of who plays when in pre-season.   Guys like Bersin, Lucas and King are going to get quality time with the #1 and #2 units while McNutt and Underwood and others will be scraping for playing time with the 3rd team.

 

If King shows he has the speed that Underwood is suppose to have.  At this moment our Staff is thinking King is the answer NOT Underwood. 

 

Also, the word is carcas. I'm not sure if you intentionally misspelled it, or are too dim-witted to understand what the red line underneath the word in your browser means.

 

(A browser is the thing you click on to go the internet!)

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Are you talking about last season? We had quite a few injuries, especially on the Oline.

 

Yes, I am referring to last season.

 

 

We didn't lose a meaningful starter last season....maybe Amini, but we don't even know if he is a good player or not.

 

The Panthers were lucky last season, I hope it sticks around.

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