Kug to have back surgery Aug 8th, done for year

[AU-panther]

We did. We didn't want to give up our 4th 

 

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[Jmac]

I would venture to say that D.G. learned a lesson with this pick...wouldn't expect him to repeat the same mistake twice.

[MHS831]

welp that was a great pick

 

Most 4th rounders bust. 

Here is how I look at it:

 

+ Silatolu:  Awesome pick, great value, need

+ Short: Solid pick, good value, need

- Kugbila:  Raw potential.  We cannot foresee injuries, so this is not a ***** in Gettlemen's armor

+ Klein: Awesome pick, great value (you should not draft in the fifth round for need-will probably start this year or next)

- Barner:  Decent pick, good value.  RR wanted a scat back, and this is the guy.  Jury still out.

 

If Barner and Kug don't develop, that is a 60% rating on the draft (players who become key contributors by year 2).  Keep in mind that the NFL average for first rounders alone is about 60%.  If Barner comes around, this goes up to 80%.

 

Benjamin: Good pick, fair value, huge need

Ealy: Solid pick, great value, becoming a need

Turner: Solid pick, solid value, need

Boston: Questionable pick, questionable value, need (Boston could become special--knows the defensive backfield.)

Bene: Solid pick, solid value, need

Gaffney: solid pick (see Williams-31, Stewart -injured again) Gaffney/Tolbert/Barner could be the combo by the end of the year

 

I am guessing that ALL of the picks above could be key contributors by next season.  Gettlemen is pretty good.

[Semaj]

Let's wish him well and just move on. It isn't working.

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[CarolinaCoolin]

We have turner.

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[Yaboychris28]

What lesson is to be learned? Its a 4th round pick. Its not like he went out there and sucked! He just never saw the field. Never was hurt in college

over drafting a project player from a d2 school when there were better options. Everyone was shocked by the pick.

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[PhillyB]

sucks for him.

 

i'm very interested in how trai turner looks in camp

[AceMan]

This caught me off-guard....hopefully, we're done with him. Didn't like the pick AT ALL when it was made

 

 

 

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

What's the source?

Backpain and overweight.

[C47]

Hindsight 20-20 and all that poo, but since I wanted him over Kugs to begin with....we could've had Kenny Stills but nah....hog mollies and stuff. 

[EightyNine]

We had 5 picks in 2013, and no 3rd rounder. That whiff hurt us a lot more than in most drafts.

 

And remind me how we did in that one playoff game? And remind me who we have starting at LT? And remind me who we have starting at RT for that matter?

 

Naw, he's doing a bang-up job.

 

Maybe we just shouldn't play this year and keep guys healthy for the following season..  Since you already know whats gonna happen and everything... Its definitely not too early to judge what kind of job Gettleman is doing..

     ^^^sarcasm

 

 

Did you ask these same questions last year about our starting DBs?  It seemed like they were gonna be pretty terrible, but it turned out pretty good.  Remember that no one wins or loses in the offseason.. You still have to play on Sunday.  You should have learned that this past year..  Maybe you're just not used to having a GM that is able to find talent from the bottom of the barrel.

 

And I think its really stupid for you to bring up the playoff game as a knock against Gettleman.. Thats pretty ridiculous. The 49ers are a good team, and we could have won that game.  Your expectations are too high and your optimism is too low. 

[*FreeFua*]

Hindsight 20-20 and all that poo, but since I wanted him over Kugs to begin with....we could've had Kenny Stills but nah....hog mollies and stuff.

Browns just released Kenny Shaw. Similar name, not similar talent. Go get em DG!

[j2sgam]

If hes on IR then we cannot cut him without a settlement and other teams cannot pick him up, correct? Perhaps they just dont want to lose him, which they could if they stuck him on practice squad, but its way too early for PS to be named anyhow.... I know less about it than most seem to, just throwin poo at the wall. Gotta be a reason hes not just cut, gotta be a rhyme for him to go to IR this early..... 

 

"Youre not getting this like we hoped, the bike is doing nothing for your upper body. We need strong up and down, youre only going to stop Atlanta's pass rush with just your legs. We're placing you on IR, go study the playbook after "surgery", we'll see if you can handle Spartanburg next August..."

 

Again, just seein if something sticks....

[Ace_Aladdin]

If hes on IR then we cannot cut him without a settlement and other teams cannot pick him up, correct? Perhaps they just dont want to lose him, which they could if they stuck him on practice squad, but its way too early for PS to be named anyhow.... I know less about it than most seem to, just throwin poo at the wall. Gotta be a reason hes not just cut, gotta be a rhyme for him to go to IR this early..... 

 

"Youre not getting this like we hoped, the bike is doing nothing for your upper body. We need strong up and down, youre only going to stop Atlanta's pass rush with just your legs. We're placing you on IR, go study the playbook after "surgery", we'll see if you can handle Spartanburg next August..."

 

Again, just seein if something sticks....

 

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11259557/carolina-panthers-quarterback-cam-newton-fully-participate-training-camp

 

Apparently the injury happened while during a rehab practice