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No Public Dollars For BoA

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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I'm nowhere near as convinced of this as everyone else on here. I don't think he gives a damn where the team is after he passes, and it's debatable as to whether or not he even should.

 

People who actually know him and work with him would say otherwise.

 

We're not talking about a guy who just purchased an existing team here.  Jerry Richardson dedicated a pretty significant portion of his life (and bank account) to bringing an NFL team to the Carolinas.  This is his baby.  The notion that he doesn't care what ultimately happens to it would just be ridiculous.

 

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Carl Spackler Grand Master

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We're not talking about a guy who just purchased an existing team here.  George Shinn dedicated a pretty significant portion of his life (and bank account) to bringing an NBA team to Charlotte.  This is his baby.  The notion that he doesn't care what ultimately happens to it would just be ridiculous.

 

 

Just playing devil's advocate is all, I'm not ignoring their differences. 

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Meh, once the team sells it's anybody's guess.

By the way, Sealed Air just got roughly $60 million in tax incentives from NC to move its HQs from New Jersey to Charlotte. Most of the "jobs" will be filled by relocations. Public money used to bring more Jets and Giants fans down here. Yay.

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you gotta remember how small Green Bay actually is dude there are like four people living In that frozen hell so it works there but in the Qeen city there's just too many people

 

i hear you about Green Bay. with so few people, it was easy to convince them to buy team stock. but at the same time, your point about Charlotte having too many people doesnt make sense to me. With so many people, surely there are enough people who can and would buy stock in the team to make it a viable option. Especially if they set the starting price at an affordable value for the average family living in the Carolinas...

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i hear you about Green Bay. with so few people, it was easy to convince them to buy team stock. but at the same time, your point about Charlotte having too many people doesnt make sense to me. With so many people, surely there are enough people who can and would buy stock in the team to make it a viable option. Especially if they set the starting price at an affordable value for the average family living in the Carolinas...

Well my problem is when you split anything into that many shares it can be chaotic and hard to manage , and also whenever something is that numerous it becomes cheap , when something is cheap appreciation and value drops ,which would means you'd see Big money groups, like the ones after buffalo buying up mass shares and lobbying to move the team. Where as with the reduced number in Green Bay and lack of other (if any) major attractions they are valued much higher at least that was my thought process if you have a counter to that I always enjoy intelligent conversation
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Well my problem is when you split anything into that many shares it can be chaotic and hard to manage , and also whenever something is that numerous it becomes cheap , when something is cheap appreciation and value drops ,which would means you'd see Big money groups, like the ones after buffalo buying up mass shares and lobbying to move the team. Where as with the reduced number in Green Bay and lack of other (if any) major attractions they are valued much higher at least that was my thought process if you have a counter to that I always enjoy intelligent conversation

 

     i agree with the possibility of chaos and difficulty to manage. that can come with any transition though. and i see what youre saying with the big money groups. like i said earlier, i dont know anything about finance, and very little about economics. you are probably right about the big money. idk how i feel about your attractions logic. that surely is the case for Green Bay. but what other attractions does Charlotte have that would realistically compete with the Panthers? all other professional sports in the Carolinas are nowhere near as popular as the Panthers are. one could argue for NASCAR, but the series only visits Charlotte three weekends per year. besides, i think the revenue it brings the city, and thus, the states of NC and SC would drive those three parties (City of Charlotte, NC State Gov, SC State Gov) to try to keep the Panthers here.

 

     maybe i am naive to think this way, but this is the first professional football team to make residence in the Carolinas. the Panthers have become synonymous with the Carolinas. i dont think the people of these states, and the states themselves, would let the Panthers leave without doing everything in their power to keep them here. i mean.. look how they handled the Hornets. they tried everything they could to keep the Hornets in Charlotte. and the Panthers' team leadership is nowhere near as difficult to work with as the owner of the Hornets was. besides... look at the loyalty the fans had to the organization. we loved the Hornets so much that we never really thought the Bobcats were "our" team. and Micheal Jordan knew enough of this loyalty to buy the trademarks so that we could have "our" team back. the loyalty is the same if not greater for the Panthers. especially since they have been a force here for 20 years. Granted, the Rams were in LA for nearly 50 years and they still left but the Panthers ownership and fanbase seem to have more loyalty to each other than either the LA Rams or the LA Raiders.

 

My other problem is that our team is young and there are a lot of fans of other teams in the Queen City which means that a good chunk of the populous won't want anything to do with the panthers

 

im not so worried about that. but you bring to mind something i might be worried about. what if these fans of other teams are some of the people buying stock in the team? would they adopt the Panthers as their team by virtue of buying into the team? or would they try to sabatoge the team to have it removed from the Carolinas? i am more inclined to think the former, but no one can judge motives. 

 

BG427, what would be your blueprint for keeping the Panthers in the Carolinas?

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i agree with the possibility of chaos and difficulty to manage. that can come with any transition though. and i see what youre saying with the big money groups. like i said earlier, i dont know anything about finance, and very little about economics. you are probably right about the big money. idk how i feel about your attractions logic. that surely is the case for Green Bay. but what other attractions does Charlotte have that would realistically compete with the Panthers? all other professional sports in the Carolinas are nowhere near as popular as the Panthers are. one could argue for NASCAR, but the series only visits Charlotte three weekends per year. besides, i think the revenue it brings the city, and thus, the states of NC and SC would drive those three parties (City of Charlotte, NC State Gov, SC State Gov) to try to keep the Panthers here.

maybe i am naive to think this way, but this is the first professional football team to make residence in the Carolinas. the Panthers have become synonymous with the Carolinas. i dont think the people of these states, and the states themselves, would let the Panthers leave without doing everything in their power to keep them here. i mean.. look how they handled the Hornets. they tried everything they could to keep the Hornets in Charlotte. and the Panthers' team leadership is nowhere near as difficult to work with as the owner of the Hornets was. besides... look at the loyalty the fans had to the organization. we loved the Hornets so much that we never really thought the Bobcats were "our" team. and Micheal Jordan knew enough of this loyalty to buy the trademarks so that we could have "our" team back. the loyalty is the same if not greater for the Panthers. especially since they have been a force here for 20 years. Granted, the Rams were in LA for nearly 50 years and they still left but the Panthers ownership and fanbase seem to have more loyalty to each other than either the LA Rams or the LA Raiders.

im not so worried about that. but you bring to mind something i might be worried about. what if these fans of other teams are some of the people buying stock in the team? would they adopt the Panthers as their team by virtue of buying into the team? or would they try to sabatoge the team to have it removed from the Carolinas? i am more inclined to think the former, but no one can judge motives.

BG427, what would be your blueprint for keeping the Panthers in the Carolinas?

My blueprint would be seeing one of the Big business folks from Pepsi make a play, I mean the Panthers are a very useful marketing tool for them even now, not to mention the revenue from a pro sports team and I'm certain they themselves being Carolina residents wouldn't wanna let the team leave, it just fits with their whole born in the Carolina's motif
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