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[Captain Morgan]

I said it the other day & I'll say it again..

Between the Rivera-Lovie history, Cam still being overlooked & underrated, the entire team being disrespected & labeled a bust, etc...

This team is gonna wipe the field with Tampa Bay on opening day. I seriously believe they are gonna go to Tampa pissed off with not only the mindset of getting a win, but completely dismantling Tampa & sending a huge message.

 

 

 

 

what's this all about?

[PiratePanther189]

what's this all about?

 

After helping lead the Bears to the SB, Rivera was magically let go not long after for - if I remember right - what Lovie said to be "philosophical differences" but I think there was more there too. They couldn't agree on contract negotiations. It was a little dramatic.

[Billy Love]

why cant i see tweets

 

didn't your mom warn you that "fapping" would make you go blind?????

[lindseyjw14]

what's this all about?

Lovie fired Rivera.

He was probably scared of Ron taking his HC job. Bears go to the Super Bowl with the #1 defense & then can their DC. Things that make you go "hmmm."

Bears defense gets progressively worse until Lovie is canned. Meanwhile, Ron goes to SD & builds #1 defense again, then Carolina & builds #2 defense & wins Coach of Year.

[Razeyfingers]

Lovie fired Rivera.

He was probably scared of Ron taking his HC job. Bears go to the Super Bowl with the #1 defense & then can their DC. Things that make you go "hmmm."

Bears defense gets progressively worse until Lovie is canned. Meanwhile, Ron goes to SD & builds #1 defense again, then Carolina & builds #2 defense & wins Coach of Year.

 

That was exactly how I perceived it when it happened. . . and now the body of work is showing plenty enough to see who was right and whos about to get fired.

 

Lovie wont last 3 seasons in Tampa. I think this is his last HC stop.

[Toundra]

Cool Greg will have a 1000 yards and 10 TDs season.

 

[CelticCat]

While I think that it's fair to bring that stat up, I also think that it's fair for me to say that we also probably had among the fewest plays AND drives in the league. Our offense is unsustainable. We didn't score enough points and we ran the same offense last year that worked in the 08 regular season and simply didn't in the playoffs.

 

It's unsustainable. While we may score among the best TD's PER CAPITA, it doesn't necessarily mean that we score enough of them.

 

 

You realize that was by design, right? We played a ball control game that helped sustain the D and helped them rank #2. Do you think if Cam was throwing a lot more and the team were creating more turnovers that the D would still be ranked #2. Keep in mind Cam had zero pick 6's last year we vary rarely did we put the D in pad situations. Most of our turnovers were deep in opposition territory. Also consider that less drives for us means less drives for the opposition, it shortens the game and means we believe we are more efficient than you.

 

Note that San Diego had the fewest drives in the league and ranked either #1 or #2 in most categories. That had a great offense last year. We also won 12 games so it looks like we scored enough too. SF and Sea also play a similar game to us and they won a lot of games too. It's sustainable, you just need to execute and we didn't against SF game 2.

[jayflip]

Yeah, tons of bulletin board material being provided.

Cam reminded the receivers of how "sorry" they are, so it's being noticed and used for motivation.

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Hope a giant bulletin board was part of the stadium renovations...

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[PiratePanther189]

You realize that was by design, right? We played a ball control game that helped sustain the D and helped them rank #2. Do you think if Cam was throwing a lot more and the team were creating more turnovers that the D would still be ranked #2. Keep in mind Cam had zero pick 6's last year we vary rarely did we put the D in pad situations. Most of our turnovers were deep in opposition territory. Also consider that less drives for us means less drives for the opposition, it shortens the game and means we believe we are more efficient than you.

 

Note that San Diego had the fewest drives in the league and ranked either #1 or #2 in most categories. That had a great offense last year. We also won 12 games so it looks like we scored enough too. SF and Sea also play a similar game to us and they won a lot of games too. It's sustainable, you just need to execute and we didn't against SF game 2.

 

No sh*t I know it's by design. My whole point is that its an unsustainable design.

 

You aren't taking into account the type of playcalling was far more vertical in SD. You don't need a lot of plays when Philly Rivers completes multiple 25 yard pass plays every drive. I also contend to say that the PLAYCALLING was better in both San Fran and Seattle - specifically Seattle where they were more balanced in their pass plays of over 15 yards. That's all I was talking about - you do realize that, right? The playcalling.

 

I do, however, stand firm that a ball control offense and lack of vertical plays does keep a team down, not allowing them to step on the throat of a good opponent which quite frankly is something we were unable to do. You need balance. We call plays like a team that is playing not to lose. What's good is that we didn't lose often, but that doesn't take away from the fact that our offense is UNSUSTAINABLE.

 

I disagree strongly with you when you say that we "never put the D in bad situations." Do you realize how often our defense was on the field? You're just underestimating how damn good they were. They were CONSTANTLY in bad situations. They were just so good that they made it look easy. If the D wasn't so stout you would be harping a WAY different tune.

 

Also, Cam's 13 picks is one away from being tied for 10th in the league, and I'm not saying that to bash Cam obviously - but what I am saying is that we didn't substantially lower turnovers in the passing game...we did substantially lower our pass ranking. Just because he didn't give up touchdowns with those picks shouldn't have a bearing in my opinion on playcalling with your tail between your legs.

 

We won games, but it wasn't because of the ball control offense. I'm sorry, but it just wasn't. It was because of our defense and the 2 minute drill.

[fieryprophet]

No sh*t I know it's by design. My whole point is that its an unsustainable design.

You aren't taking into account the type of playcalling was far more vertical in SD. You don't need a lot of plays when Philly Rivers completes multiple 25 yard pass plays every drive. I also contend to say that the PLAYCALLING was better in both San Fran and Seattle - specifically Seattle where they were more balanced in their pass plays of over 15 yards. That's all I was talking about - you do realize that, right? The playcalling.

I do, however, stand firm that a ball control offense and lack of vertical plays does keep a team down, not allowing them to step on the throat of a good opponent which quite frankly is something we were unable to do. You need balance. We call plays like a team that is playing not to lose. What's good is that we didn't lose often, but that doesn't take away from the fact that our offense is UNSUSTAINABLE.

I disagree strongly with you when you say that we "never put the D in bad situations." Do you realize how often our defense was on the field? You're just underestimating how damn good they were. They were CONSTANTLY in bad situations. They were just so good that they made it look easy. If the D wasn't so stout you would be harping a WAY different tune.

Also, Cam's 13 picks is one away from being tied for 10th in the league, and I'm not saying that to bash Cam obviously - but what I am saying is that we didn't substantially lower turnovers in the passing game...we did substantially lower our pass ranking. Just because he didn't give up touchdowns with those picks shouldn't have a bearing in my opinion on playcalling with your tail between your legs.

We won games, but it wasn't because of the ball control offense. I'm sorry, but it just wasn't. It was because of our defense and the 2 minute drill.

Playcalling is why our poor receiving corps and patchwork offensive line struggled, eh?

[PiratePanther189]

Playcalling is why our poor receiving corps and patchwork offensive line struggled, eh?

 

See now you're getting into an entirely different issue. Has no bearing on what I said, which was that playcalling by Mike Shula needs to improve. We had worse receiving corps the previous 2 years and put up better passing numbers.

 

NOW I'm not saying that Chud was necessarily leaps and bounds better than Shula overall in the playcalling dept. but I will say that both of their stratagies put together (which many teams - most notably Seattle - do today) would give us what we want. Potent offense that scores points and a great defense.

 

Also are you Canadian, eh?

[shelbypanther]

I said it the other day & I'll say it again..

Between the Rivera-Lovie history, Cam still being overlooked & underrated, the entire team being disrespected & labeled a bust, etc...

This team is gonna wipe the field with Tampa Bay on opening day. I seriously believe they are gonna go to Tampa pissed off with not only the mindset of getting a win, but completely dismantling Tampa & sending a huge message.

Big benefit this time around as well is not having to evacuate the city the week before the game for Obama and his basket of assholes.  We were flat as a pancake having to train down in Sarasota for a week.

[Mr. Scot]

Lovie didn't really 'fire' Rivera.  He just didn't keep him.

 

His original choice for DC was Bob Babich, but Bears management wanted Rivera (former Bear, 85 team member, etc) so Lovie caved.  But when Rivera's original contract ended, Lovie didn't renew it and instead installed the guy he'd wanted in the first place.  Rivera moved on to San Diego.

 

Both men say "no hard feelings" when asked, but I've never really bought it.  I honestly don't think they like each other much.  Whether it's because of that situation, other things that happened when they worked together or just clashing personalities, who can say?

 

Mind you, Rivera seems to have no issues with Bob Babich.  His son spent a couple of years working here as a defensive assistant (he moved on to Cleveland when Chudzinski took over there).

 

 

 

[Peppers90 NC]

I'm getting tired of reading it.