LVSL QF's: Charlotte Hornets vs. New York Knicks

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Looking forward to the 30 for 30 on this improbable, inspriational run...

23rd seeded Hornets shock Vegas!!!

[cbarrier90]

23rd seeded Hornets shock Vegas!!!

 

"What if I told you: three losses to start can sting, but a run to the championship is bee-autiful. 30 for 30 Films presents: '23: the story of the 2014 Charlotte Hornets Summer League Team.'"

[lindseyjw14]

It's all set...

Hornets vs. Rockets

Kings vs. Wizards

PJ is stroking it from downtown. Exclude the first game where he shot 1-10, and the whole team looked jet lagged, and he's shooting 42% from beyond the arc over the last 5 games (17-41). His 2pt Fg% still sucks, though, and he doesn't add much elsewhere. He's pretty much just jacking up 3s, but he's draining them.

Last 5 games

18.8 Pts (42% 3pt)

[lindseyjw14]

Also...

Vonleh is a special talent. He seems to be the complete package as an 18 year old. Some kids coming out are strictly athletes with little basketball skill (Andre Wiggins), others are great basketball talents while lacking athleticism (Jabari Parker), some are already physical defined, while others are scrawny.

Vonleh has it all at age 18. He'll probably add some weight, but he's got a huge frame that already has a ton of muscle mass. He is a very athletic player, especially for his size. And he has great basketball skills; he can shoot, handle the ball, & has polished post moves & footwork.

It's incredibly rare to see an 18 year old, especially a big guy, who has the complete package. He has a chance to be better than any current or former Horner player in 4-6 years. I don't really follow college basketball, but I see why he was so prized as a prospect. He looks like Chris Bosh reincarnated.

[MichaelNewtonII]

Also...

Vonleh is a special talent. He seems to be the complete package as an 18 year old. Some kids coming out are strictly athletes with little basketball skill (Andre Wiggins), others are great basketball talents while lacking athleticism (Jabari Parker), some are already physical defined, while others are scrawny.

Vonleh has it all at age 18. He'll probably add some weight, but he's got a huge frame that already has a ton of muscle mass. He is a very athletic player, especially for his size. And he has great basketball skills; he can shoot, handle the ball, & has polished post moves & footwork.

It's incredibly rare to see an 18 year old, especially a big guy, who has the complete package. He has a chance to be better than any current or former Horner player in 4-6 years. I don't really follow college basketball, but I see why he was so prized as a prospect. He looks like Chris Bosh reincarnated.

If He turns out to be another bosh I would be ecstatic

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[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Hornets sighting on SC Top Ten

- Hairston's tomahawk jam came in at #6.

- Rion Brown's impressive alley-oop came in at #4.

[lindseyjw14]

If He turns out to be another bosh I would be ecstatic

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If he develops into Bosh 2.0, & Jordan can keep Clifford from being poached by a big market team, we will be serious title contenders and a favorite in 5 years.

Kemba/Lance/MKG/Vonleh

That will be a nasty lineup. All Cho will have to do is find a serviceable 5 and fill out the bench. Al will probably still be putting up big numbers but I doubt we could afford him at that point because all these rookie deals will be gone.

Our rebuild is complete, and it was the smartest thing Jordan has ever done as an executive. Now we just have to be patient and develop the talent we've collected.

[cbarrier90]

If he develops into Bosh 2.0, & Jordan can keep Clifford from being poached by a big market team, we will be serious title contenders and a favorite in 5 years.

 

I could be wrong on this, but coaches aren't as free to move as players. I think other teams can talk to coaches but they have to be granted permission from the organization as long as the coach is under contract. As long as we want Clifford here, he's ours.

 

If somebody wants Clifford, they can hire Ewing who's more than qualified for his first opportunity to be a head coach.

[lindseyjw14]

I could be wrong on this, but coaches aren't as free to move as players. I think other teams can talk to coaches but they have to be granted permission from the organization as long as the coach is under contract. As long as we want Clifford here, he's ours.

If somebody wants Clifford, they can hire Ewing who's more than qualified for his first opportunity to be a head coach.

Clifford is only under contract for 2 more seasons.

[cbarrier90]

Clifford is only under contract for 2 more seasons.

 

Barring a complete meltdown either on the court or in the front office, I think it's safe to say an extension will be headed his way if the team makes a repeat playoff appearance.

 

And this is kind of a tangent, but I don't buy the line many are throwing around here that a "token playoff appearance is not good enough this time around." While bowing out in the first round or getting a lower seed would be lower than expectations, Clifford inherited a laughing stock of a franchise coming off a 20-win season and trying to build around a wild, undersized point guard, a wing player who needed a complete reconstruction of his shot, and a young undersized center who is a liability everywhere on the basketball court outside of blocking shots and occasionally getting some rebounds.

 

In the span of two consecutive offseasons, he has helped turn that squad (with some notable additions, obviously) into what looks to be a young threat to the Eastern Conference playoff picture. This was unthinkable just three seasons ago.

[lindseyjw14]

Barring a complete meltdown either on the court or in the front office, I think it's safe to say an extension will be headed his way if the team makes a repeat playoff appearance.

And this is kind of a tangent, but I don't buy the line many are throwing around here that a "token playoff appearance is not good enough this time around." While bowing out in the first round or getting a lower seed would be lower than expectations, Clifford inherited a laughing stock of a franchise coming off a 20-win season and trying to build around a wild, undersized point guard, a wing player who needed a complete reconstruction of his shot, and a young undersized center who is a liability everywhere on the basketball court outside of blocking shots and occasionally getting some rebounds.

In the span of two consecutive offseasons, he has helped turn that squad (with some notable additions, obviously) into what looks to be a young threat to the Eastern Conference playoff picture. This was unthinkable just three seasons ago.

None of that will mean anything when LA, NY, etc want him.

Kemba is not undersized, he's 6'1. Chris Paul is 6' & Tony Parker is 6'2. Why do y'all act like he's 5'3?

[cbarrier90]

None of that will mean anything when LA, NY, etc want him.

Kemba is not undersized, he's 6'1. Chris Paul is 6' & Tony Parker is 6'2. Why do y'all act like he's 5'3?

 

We can still demand a king's ransom in compensation unless he really makes it known he'd rather go elsewhere. Considering the current states of those two franchises and their recent coaching histories, I would be surprised if he wanted to leave the stability he's built here.

 

I act like Kemba's 5'3 because he plays with a dribble-drive style where he's constantly among the trees in the paint. At 6'1 180 he lacks the size to go in there with authority like a Russell Westbrook who is 6'4 and can jump out of the gym. During his first season that I was referencing, all Kemba did was drive into the paint at 100 miles an hour like he was still at UConn. Now he's developed a little bit more of a perimeter and facilitator game, but he is naturally a scoring guard.

 

With each draft, more and more teams will be gravitating toward taller primary ball handlers (Exum, Payton, MCW, LaVine, Smart) that could cause problems for Kemba in the future.

[The Huddler]

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[Porn Shop Clerk]

we've never had a team that could create the space kemba needs to take his man off the dribble