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[yasuhara2241]

To be honest all this stuff about having no money next yr is crap. So much can happen. We can go up to the luxury line of over $76m and that will be to sign our own players. We are so used to not going up that high that we feel like the team won't but the fact is we never had a team worth spending on. So all this conjecturing is BS! So I say go after Lance this yr and worry about the way the puzzle fits next yr!

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[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Is the cap going up next year?

Cut Zeller that is 6 million more. Say bye to Taylor. There is 8 million, with might even be able to sign Kemba with that and bird rights

Trade Henderson for backup PG.

Draft back up center.

The cap will go up next year.

I also highly doubt that we will give up on the fourth overall draft pick just three years removed from drafting him. It's not logical.

Maybe as fans we think it's logical, but a professional organization will say otherwise.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

To be honest all this stuff about having no money next yr is crap. So much can happen. We can go up to the luxury line of over $76m and that will be to sign our own players. We are so used to not going up that high that we feel like the team won't but the fact is we never had a team worth spending on. So all this conjecturing is BS! So I say go after Lance this yr and worry about the way the puzzle fits next yr!

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It's not BS, it's the way the cap works.

By the way you don't have to have a huge payroll to win an NBA title. You have to be able to develop talent and sign players to team friendly deals.

Just look at San Antonio. They have one of the lowest payrolls in the NBA. The difference is they develop their talent. It's time we try to develop ours instead of replacing it for short gains.

[MedellinHeel]

Is the cap going up next year?

Cut Zeller that is 6 million more. Say bye to Taylor. There is 8 million, with might even be able to sign Kemba with that and bird rights

Trade Henderson for backup PG.

Draft back up center.

 

Cut Zeller? Hell naw lol

 

 

[yasuhara2241]

It's not BS, it's the way the cap works.

By the way you don't have to have a huge payroll to win an NBA title. You have to be able to develop talent and sign players to team friendly deals.

Just look at San Antonio. They have one of the lowest payrolls in the NBA. The difference is they develop their talent. It's time we try to develop ours instead of replacing for short gains.

So you never answered can we go up to the luxury line to resign Kemba?

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[teeray]

The cap will go up next year.

I also highly doubt that we will give up on the fourth overall draft pick just three years removed from drafting him. It's not logical.

Maybe as fans we think it's logical, but a professional organization will say otherwise.

It is completely logical. Maybe if we didn't draft Vonleh it wouldn't be, but freeing up 6 million that easily when you have a back up 4 that you are also invested in it makes perfect sense.

May not be ideal, but you have to make tough choices. If your decision is to either keep Lance, Al, and Kemba together or keep a back up 4 with another cheaper one already on the roster, we'll it isn't logical not to do it.

[Gay Cowboy]

I don't think Kemba is the only point guard on the planet. What I'm saying is that (that people don't seem to understand) we can't afford any other point guard.

Say we sign Lance to a 4x11

Okay so below is our cap space without Kemba.

- Back up PG: $5 mil

- Draft Pick (PG): $550K

- Stephenson: $11 mil

- Henderson: $6 mil

- Hairston: $2 mil

- MKG: $6 mil

- Taylor: $2 mil

- Williams: $7 mil

- Zeller: $6 mil

- Vonleh: $4 mil

- Jefferson: $16 mil

- Draft Pick ©: $1 mil

That puts us $2 mil over with no starting point guard and no backup center.

Our only option is to re-sign Kemba using his bird rights and then use the MLE to sign a quality backup center and if we do that, we might as well use the bi-annual to get a decent back up small forward. That puts us in the tax, something we will not do.

Oh by the way, even if you manage to trade Henderson (not going to happen, no one wants him), you'll still be awfully close to the tax.

If Jordan changed his mind and would be willing to pay into the tax next year then we might be able to make it work.

Maybe a 2015 roster of...

PG: Kemba Walker (re-sign), Kirk Hinrich (sign this year), Oliver Hanlan (draft next year)

SG: Lance Stephenson (sign this year), Gerald Henderson, P.J. Hairston

SF: Micahel Kidd-Gilchrist, Travis Outlaw (bi-annual next year), Jeff Taylor (re-sign)

PF: Marvin Williams, Cody Zeller, Noah Vonleh

C: Al Jefferson (re-sign), Samuel Dalembert (MLE), Willie Cauley-Stein (draft next year).

I mean technically that works because we are using a ton of exceptions to sign players and we're re-signing all of our players with their bird rights.

If Kemba re-signs for $8.5 and Jefferson re-signs for $16 that could work. The total team salary came in at $81 mil, which is the exact number of the projected lux tax for 2015.

So you just let a 21 yo Biyombo, the best rim protector in the game, walk next summer while paying Hendo $6mil to be your 3rd best SG?

Go eat your happy meal, kid.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

i'm an avid sports fan, been a panthers season ticket holder from day one, same with the hornets since they cut the ribbons on tyvola, but no matter how hard i try to appreciate carolina huddle, folks like carolinapanthers8789 f*cking ruin it, they assume they work for william morris and are in the know on how to represent celebrity clientele, and quite frankly its a chore to even view this page anymore. hopefully your admins will take care of that sh*t. no wonder the other nfc south teams mock our forums. its a GD shame that i'm okay viewing the saints/falcons/bucs/wizards/heat/hawks pages rather than this one. and its because of you, you jackass. if i didn't know any better i'd think it was chris f'ing mclain.

How do I ruin it?

Because I'm a realistic individual?

My fault for taking this stuff seriously when it's my job and life. I'm a sport management major. I've worked with numbers and stats for as long as I can remember. I'm not making this stuff up to try and say hey look at me.

I'm trying to point out realistic scenarios.

The reason people mock you is because you aren't level-headed. No one likes people that have no sense of realism.

[MedellinHeel]

It is completely logical. Maybe if we didn't draft Vonleh it wouldn't be, but freeing up 6 million that easily when you have a back up 4 that you are also invested in it makes perfect sense.

May not be ideal, but you have to make tough choices. If your decision is to either keep Lance, Al, and Kemba together or keep a back up 4 with another cheaper one already on the roster, we'll it isn't logical not to do it.

 

It is possible with us drafting Vonleh. 

 

The FO will use this year to assess who they want to roll with or who has more upside. 

 

But with Al's age, they might plan for Vonleh AND Zeller to be starters in the future. But then again that seems like too far down the line. 

[yasuhara2241]

How do I ruin it?

Because I'm a realistic individual?

My fault for taking this stuff seriously when it's my job and life. I'm a sport management major. I've worked with numbers and stats for as long as I can remember. I'm not making this stuff up to try and say hey look at me.

I'm trying to point out realistic scenarios.

The reason people mock you is because you aren't level-headed. No one likes people that have no sense of realism.

Can't we go up to the luxury cap line and have enough to resign Kemba even if we did get Lance for 11m? Hoping third time asking is a charm

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[Rise of The Hive]

He will probably start at the 4 to bring the young guys along.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

So you just let a 21 yo Biyombo, the best rim protector in the game, walk next summer while paying Hendo $6mil to be your 3rd best SG?

Go eat your happy meal, kid.

I don't think paying $5.5 million a year for a one-dimensional rim protector that actually found himself not even seeing the floor at the end of the season is a smart idea.

Also explain to me how you are getting rid of Hendo? I've seen everyone say, "just trade Hendo", "we can trade Henderson for him", "get rid of Hendo"...

In reality, Henderson's value is so low that Orlando took back garbage for Afflao rather than taking on Henderson's contract.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Can't we go up to the luxury cap line and have enough to resign Kemba even if we did get Lance for 11m? Hoping third time asking is a charm

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My bad lol.

Yes you can (and that's the only option). My post was more in regards to Chuck trying to replace Kemba with Dragic as well as signing Lance.

Financially we couldn't make that work.

[Gay Cowboy]

I don't think paying $5.5 million a year for a one-dimensional rim protector that actually found himself not even seeing the floor at the end of the season is a smart idea.

You should strongly consider a different career path.