Statistical Analysis of 7 Young QBs

[Ricky Spanish]

poo, sorry, forgot to just change their names in those charts. for those who don't remember:

 

A-Wilson

B-Dalton

C-Luck

D-RG3

E-Cam

F-Kaepernick

G-Dalton

[IGSaint]

Great Job OP. That's why blind comparison are so needed in comparing these young qb's. Everyone is biased to a certain degree and some people place too much faith in what their "eyes" tell them. But the stats speak for themselves. 

[Jangler]

Cam has gotten better every year...with better receivers can't imagine he will regress. yes it could happen, but don't I see it.

[lightsout]

Well done. Good research and presentation.


Now go, my young friend. Go out into the wild blue yonder and lay down with somebody

[bleys]

I'm not even sure if you undestand the point you are trying to make anymore. First you say stats don't matter, now you say they do.

 

Total yards mean absolutely dick if you aren't putting points up on the board, and you obviously can't put points on the board if you are turning the ball over at a high rate. Like Andrew Luck was in his first two seasons. You can rage all you want, but 35 INT's in 2 seasons is high.

 

I was waiting for rko to make the obvious point come full circle but apparently he couldn't..

 

 

he was using someone else's point as an example of why stats aren't everything and talking tongue in cheek..  Whatever stats he was trying to prove, whatever, maybe just my OCD kicking in that he couldn't come full circle with that point.  Then again, maybe he did, I admit I only skimmed the back and forth drama per usual.

 

And he also failed to communicate his point that just because 2 players have roughly the same amount of INTs throughout a 2 year period doesn't take into account the number of attempts between the two.

 

if one person throws the ball 400 times and has 20 picks while another throws 250 and has 20 picks, then obviously one player has handled the ball better despite the total INTs at the end of 2 years.

 

 

 

anyhow, enjoyed the stats..  as already stated, good job mcnasty..

[Gay Cowboy]

QB Rankings, IMO...

-Luck

-Wilson

-Newton

-Griffin

-Kaepernick

[bleys]

Good job op.

Can you in your next window of time do a breakdown of these metrics when their team is ahead or behind? Do a flow of 1st to 4th qrtr.

See if a qb does better or worse depending on time of the game and score.

That can tell you also how a guy plays in crucial moments or is a front runner.

Excellent job tho.

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as absurd of a request to ask due to the time it would take it looks like PFF is going to put it all together for us..  lol

 

starting with Newton...  (not sure if any other QBs have been done yet)

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/07/13/qbs-in-focus-cam-newton/

[bleys]

Their breakdown:  (although they have more than several charts to dig deeper)

 

 

Positives

•  Among the league’s best on third downs (+9.0).
•  Graded at +3.0 on plays that broke the pocket.
•  Best grades came on short passes, including +3.8 on throws in the 1-to-10-yard range.
•  Graded at +7.1 in a clean pocket and +8.9 against the blitz, including a +6.5 grade against third-down blitzes.
•  Posted a +4.6 grade on passes in between the numbers.
•  Among the league’s best on drop-backs of 9 or more yards (+7.4).
•  Showed well on passes in the 2.1-to-2.5-second range (+8.1) and ranked second in the league on passes lasting at least 3.6 seconds (+10.9).
•  Graded at +6.0 on passes to tight ends including a +5.0 grade to tight ends lined up in the slot.
•  Showed well on out routes (+3.2), comebacks (+3.3), and post routes (+4.4).
•  Extremely impressive +5.2 grade when pressured in two seconds or less.

Negatives

•  Struggled on second down (-6.0), particularly 2nd-and-Long (-5.5).
•  Graded at -6.4 on passes traveling at least 20 yards and -3.6 on passes traveling at least 30 yards.
•  Worst grades came on 4-to-6-yard drops (-3.1).
•  Graded at -3.3 on passes outside the numbers to the right
•  Graded at -9.4 on passes in the 2.6-to-3.0-second range.
•  Worst routes were corners (-1.5) and go routes (-0.9).

Tendencies

•  74.8% of drop-backs came out of the shotgun or pistol, right around the league average.
•  Faced the blitz 38.0% of the time, fourth-highest in the league.
•  6.4% of passes traveled at least 30 yards in the air, fifth-highest in the league.
•  24.1% of drop-backs lasted at least 3.6 seconds, sixth-highest in the league.
•  Only threw to running backs in non-screens situations 9.7% of the time, fourth-lowest in the league.
•  Threw the fifth-highest percentage of running back screens at 6.0% of his attempts.
•  5.9% of drop-backs left the pocket, just above the league average.

 

 

 

[Ricky Spanish]

QB Rankings, IMO...

-Luck

-Wilson

-Newton

-Griffin

-Kaepernick

 

Not going to jump down your throat or anything, but I am interested in why you put Luck at the top of your list?

 

Aside from his 4th quarter comebacks, he hasn't done anything better than any of the other QBs. 

[Brothergrim427]

Nick Foles had better stats last year than Cam. Which one would you rather have?

Point being, If you use stats to tell you who's best, you're going to be wrong much more than right. Cam could be the best of this group, or dead last. Either way, "stats" don't tell you that. Play on the field does. Stats tell you that RGIII was the best QB in the league in 2012.

Pie for time/effort.

Didn't you see Money Ball friend ? Haha in all honesty why is an angry colts fan here to begin with ? Wrong conference man, now please go back to condescending to jags, titans and texans fans okay ? And if you are simply a misguided panthers fan please grab a chair some pills and a jimmy buffet CD and please chill ^_^ lol I don't hate Andrew luck but why defend an AFC QB to a bunch of Huddlers who could care less ?

[Ricky Spanish]

Didn't you see Money Ball friend ? Haha in all honesty why is an angry colts fan here to begin with ? Wrong conference man, now please go back to condescending to jags, titans and texans fans okay ? And if you are simply a misguided panthers fan please grab a chair some pills and a jimmy buffet CD and please chill ^_^ lol I don't hate Andrew luck but why defend an AFC QB to a bunch of Huddlers who could care less ?

 

Because we couldn't care less...

[Mol3m4n]

Because we couldn't care less...

I like you.

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[PantherWake]

QB Rankings, IMO...

-Luck

-Wilson

-Newton

-Griffin

-Kaepernick

I got:

 

Wilson

Newton

Luck

Kaepernick

RG3

[thefuzz]

Great write up.

 

That kinda ended up where I expected it to be.

 

Cam does everything pretty well.

 

Wilson is super efficient.

 

Kaep is better than we think.

 

Luck is overrated.

 

RG3 is underrated

 

Dalton and Tann. are average to above average starters.