Cam ranked smack dab in the middle of QBs according to some league insiders

[edromeo]

Sando must have gathered his rankings from the worst evaluators in the NFL.

 

Andrew Luck, nothing against him, as a tier 1 QB? gtfo

 

Right there I knew the list was bunk.

 

[TheRed]

Actually Manning struggled his first NFL season.

 

But by year 3 he was CLEARLY one of the best QB's in the league.

 

By year 3, college experience is irrelevant to an NFL QB.

 

No, he struggled a bit in his fourth season, racking up 23 INT's to 26 TD's. He didn't start to become the surgical passer that he is now until his sixth season. As for college experience being irrelevant, perhaps by year 3, but it's still pretty crucial. Cam has been learning as he goes.

[Mol3m4n]

By the way, I think comparing Newton to Manning is very unfair to Newton, although it is easy to see that by year 3 of their respective careers, Manning was clearly the better QB.

I wasn't the one who started the comparison.

CLEARLY he was better with his worse touchdown to interception ratio, less total yards, and relatively the same completion percentage. And Kuechly deserved his ranking at 15. Winning DPOY must mean nothing to you.

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[Mr. Scot]

Oh so we're back to the completely false "Cam can't read defenses" argument?

 

You do realize who you're talking to, right?

 

This dude is a longtime troll.

 

[OneBadCat]

Just because they work in the NFL doesn't mean they don't have ignorant ass opinions.

 

 

Cam is a top 10 QB bottom line.

 

[Beast_3000]

I'd much rather have a stationary QB that can throw it 15 yards on point than a running one that can throw it 30 yards in a general direction. outside of highlights he won't bring much to the table as far a winning games.

even in 2013 he took more of a game manager role and let the defense do all the work.

You would say that, with your cement footed quarterback. Aaron Rogers is rated the best in the league because he can move and his athleticism is underrated on top of his pinpoint precision. Nobody wants a stationary quarterback. You are lying to yourself because you guys are committed to Matty Ice. Cam will continue to improve his accuracy. Matt probably won't improve his mobility.

Put Cam on your team last year and he would have won more than four games. So if Cam is a game manager then what would you call Matt?

[Jangler]

You would say that, with your cement footed quarterback. Aaron Rogers is rated the best in the league because he can move and his athleticism is underrated on top of his pinpoint precision. Nobody wants a stationary quarterback. You are lying to yourself because you guys are committed to Matty Ice. Cam will continue to improve his accuracy. Matt probably won't improve his mobility.

Put Cam on your team last year and he would have won more than four games. So if Cam is a game manager then what would you call Matt?

 

he's a lumberjack and he's okay.

 

 

 

 

that's twice.

[†William Moore†]

You would say that, with your cement footed quarterback. Aaron Rogers is rated the best in the league because he can move and his athleticism is underrated on top of his pinpoint precision. Nobody wants a stationary quarterback. You are lying to yourself because you guys are committed to Matty Ice. Cam will continue to improve his accuracy. Matt probably won't improve his mobility.

Put Cam on your team last year and he would have won more than four games. So if Cam is a game manager then what would you call Matt?l

lol 

[ickmule]

Another reason I never read any of that crap.

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[mc52beast]

Cam really hasn't done much in his first three years... just amass more total yardage than any other qb in league history.

[RelaxImaPro]

Mr. Scot actively defending Cam... I must be drunker than I thought.

[RelaxImaPro]

I think a lot of people are really just scared of what Cam could be if he lives up to his potential. 1 year of college in a gimmick offense and 3 years in the pros. Hes pretty much, developmental-wise, a senior coming out. The sky is the limit for him.

[Pox 08]

Peyton is one of a kind.  The greatest football mind to ever play the qb position.   He is probably the only stationary qb that could have made our Oline look better than it was..made our WRs look better than they are.    He scans the field,  finds the open receiver in the time it takes all other qbs to just drop back. 

 

 

 

 

Cam is a gunslinger.  He will have some plays that make you facepalm,  and he'll have some plays that make you think he's the best player in the history of football.                      I love the gunslinger style.     Peyton is amazing,  but I honestly preferred watching Favre instead of Peyton.  Favre is the epitome of the gunslinger style. 

[Mr. Scot]

Mr. Scot actively defending Cam... I must be drunker than I thought.

 

Wouldn't call it 'defending' so much as just giving an honest evaluation.

 

I don't deny Newton has things he needs to work on (consistency being the primary one) but you've got some who act like the admission he has any flaws is tantamount to hatred.  And I roll my eyes at the goofballs thinking the league is somehow trying to hold him down or that the media all huddle together on a regular basis to try to find ways to discredit him.  I swear, sometimes there's enough paranoia in this place for a tinfoil hat convention.

 

But setting aside the silliness and looking at things from a realistic perspective, there are a boatload of reasons to be happy about Newton.

 

Right now, Newton looks like a young Brett Favre.  He's more athletic than Favre was, mind you, but he's got all the same positives (fearlessness, decent accuracy, never say die attitude, etc).  Sadly, he's also got f the same issues too (occasional WTF moments) but like Favre did at the turning point in his career, he's developing the ability to overcome them, put the team on his back, pull out all the stops and win.

 

So bottom line, the hell with top whatever lists.  There are only two classes of quarterback in the NFL: Those good enough to win a Super Bowl and those who aren't.  I see every reason to believe that Newton is in Group One.  That's honestly all I care about.