A Hall of Fame question you probably haven't thought of

[Mr. Scot]

"First Panther to make the Hall of Fame" is a question that gets thrown around a lot.  General discussion revolves around guys like Steve Smith, Julius Peppers, Cam Newton, Luke Kuechly, etc.

 

But what about these two names?

 

Jordan Gross

 

Ryan Kalil

 

While I wouldn't necessarily bet on either of them being the first Panthers to make the Hall of Fame, both have been legitimately discussed as being the best at the NFL at their respective positions from time to time.  Those are the kind of offensive linemen that get mentioned when Hall of Fame voters talk.

 

So my question: Will either Gross or Kalil merit Pro Football Hall of Fame consideration?

 

If not, what do they lack?

[KillerKat]

No. Linemen don't get recognized unless they have numerous Pro Bowl and All-Pro selections.

[luke262]

How about Thomas Davis, I'm his biggest fan, I know he does get recognition for his achievements but to play at the level he does after what he has been through is unprecedented

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[PandaPancake]

No. Linemen don't get recognized unless they have numerous Pro Bowl and All-Pro selections.

 

Like Kalil and Gross?

 

Watching older games and seeing Kalil and Gross play really makes me appreciate what they do/did. One of my favorite plays with Kalil was Cam threw an interception and Kalil just knocks two defensive linemen to the side and tackles the guy who intercepted the pass.

[luke262]

I'm a brit by the way, I understand hof is reserved for the very top, but do they ever award on (not quite the word I know but) nostalgia?

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[PandaPancake]

I'm a brit by the way, I understand hof is reserved for the very top, but do they ever award on (not quite the word I know but) nostalgia?

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I always thought it was more for those who had an impact on the game. Like TO who has amazing stats I doubt he'll get in because of his personality.

[Anybodyhome]

They both may get in, but it'll take some time.

 

I have another name for you all to consider. This guy has better stats than most of those at his position who did get in the HOF, certainly better stats than the first guy at his position to get in.

 

John Kasay.

[Carolina Crazy V2]

No. Linemen don't get recognized unless they have numerous Pro Bowl and All-Pro selections.

 

Uhmmmm...

 

Jordan Gross - 3x Pro Bowler, 1x AP First-Team All-Pro

Ryan Kalil - 4x Pro Bowler, 1x AP First-Team All-Pro, 1x AP Second-Team All-Pro

 

So what was your point again?

[KillerKat]

Uhmmmm...

 

Jordan Gross - 3x Pro Bowler, 1x AP First-Team All-Pro

Ryan Kalil - 4x Pro Bowler, 1x AP First-Team All-Pro, 1x AP Second-Team All-Pro

 

So what was your point again?

that's not enough all-pro selections or pro bowl selections to get into the hall of fame.

[KillerKat]

Uhmmmm...

 

Jordan Gross - 3x Pro Bowler, 1x AP First-Team All-Pro

Ryan Kalil - 4x Pro Bowler, 1x AP First-Team All-Pro, 1x AP Second-Team All-Pro

 

So what was your point again?

linemen would need at least 5 all-pro selections and equal or more pro bowl selections. Even then some with at least 5 still have a hard time.

[KillerKat]

Like Kalil and Gross?

 

Watching older games and seeing Kalil and Gross play really makes me appreciate what they do/did. One of my favorite plays with Kalil was Cam threw an interception and Kalil just knocks two defensive linemen to the side and tackles the guy who intercepted the pass.

look up those already in the hall.

[PandaPancake]

They both may get in, but it'll take some time.

I have another name for you all to consider. This guy has better stats than most of those at his position who did get in the HOF, certainly better stats than the first guy at his position to get in.

John Kasay.

How dare you bring up the all time leading scorer for the Panthers

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[KillerKat]

They both may get in, but it'll take some time.

 

I have another name for you all to consider. This guy has better stats than most of those at his position who did get in the HOF, certainly better stats than the first guy at his position to get in.

 

John Kasay.

John Kasay is statistically among the top 2 best kickers in NFL history when you consider number of kicks and length of kicks.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Gross won't make it. Kalil, if he keeps racking up those pro bowls and all pros, will.