No. 26 Pick: P.J. Hairston

[MedellinHeel]

Just like I said, you'll argue with anything or anyone.

I've suggested you watch the games but with summer league coming up, you'll see soon enough.

 

No rebuttal to any of that? Ill post it one more time for you. 

 

Comes off screens and knocks down mid range shots... Ok now we are getting somewhere. 

 

Shows his driving capability... Almost everyone of his drives are off a hard ball fake & and hard dribble. 

 

Just because he handles the ball alot in one game doesnt mean he has a good handle. PJ's handle is subpar to average at best (thats being generous). You do not want to see PJ trying to get fancy off the dribble. 

 

Spots up from 3. Most SG's do that. 

 

Again, when making comps you need to look at a players bread n butter ie How they make a living in the NBA. 

 

Harden makes his living attacking the basket and getting to the line with a few 3's thrown in. 

 

PJ will make his living getting hot from 3 with a few drives and mid range jumpers thrown in. 

 

 

To simplify it for you I will bold the most important part. 

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

No rebuttal to any of that? Ill post it one more time for you.

To simplify it for you I will bold the most important part.

You wouldn't know what Hairston's bread and butter is because he isn't the same player that he was at UNC and you refuse to sit down and watch him play. I'm not blind, you're just afraid to watch him play because you know it will prove you wrong.

Instead being lazy type in "P.J. Hairston 40 points Vipers" into YouTube and watch the highlights (not even the game just the highlights) and then come back and try to tell me that, that doesn't look similar to James Harden.

Oh and by the way, 42% of Hardens game is three point shots... that's more than just "a little".

[WOW!!]

You wouldn't know what Hairston's bread and butter is because he isn't the same player that he was at UNC and you refuse to sit down and watch him play. I'm not blind, you're just afraid to watch him play because you know it will prove you wrong.

Instead being lazy type in "P.J. Hairston 40 points Vipers" into YouTube and watch the highlights (not even the game just the highlights) and then come back and try to tell me that, that doesn't look similar to James Harden.

I said this on the Radio and got laughed at by Bwood on the new Primetime show.

I also still think he has some J Harden in his game. Just not the excellent handles.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I said this on the Radio and got laughed at by Bwood on the new Primetime show.

I also still think he has some J Harden in his game. Just not the excellent handles.

I watched the game against the Vipers and it was amazing to see how far he progressed since leaving Chapel Hill.

[WOW!!]

I watched the game against the Vipers and it was amazing to see how far he progressed since leaving Chapel Hill.

If he can get Harden's Euro step he is there.

[MedellinHeel]

I said this on the Radio and got laughed at by Bwood on the new Primetime show.

I also still think he has some J Harden in his game. Just not the excellent handles.

 

You can not have Harden's game without the handle. 

 

Its like saying you can have Curry's game without the jumper. 

 

Harden is a terror off the dribble. His tight handle is key to that. 

 

Harden is relentless in attacking the basket. Gets to the line at near double the rate of PJ. 

 

Harden is also a good passer (6apg). PJ doesnt even average one assist per game. 

 

Harden is not the best comp for PJ atm imo. 

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

You can not have Harden's game without the handle.

Its like saying you can have Curry's game without the jumper.

Harden is a terror off the dribble. His tight handle is key to that.

Harden is relentless in attacking the basket. Gets to the line at near double the rate of PJ.

Harden is also a good passer (6apg). PJ doesnt even average one assist per game.

Harden is not the best comp for PJ atm imo.

Really? Lol

You can't have a similar game to someone because your handles aren't quite to the caliber as another players is?

I've heard it all folks.

[MedellinHeel]

Really? Lol

You can't have a similar game to someone because your handles aren't quite to the caliber as another players is?

I've heard it all folks.

 

Lets review,

 

1) Their skills are not really comparable. (handle, passing, off the bounce, iso, etc)

 

2) Their bread n butter is different. (double the trips to the FT line) 

 

Yep they are similar players! lol 

 

No, I am afraid I've heard it all. 

 

Kemba's game is like Curry. They both take 3's and do x! smh

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Here you go Heel... (watch the entire videos)

 

- He shows that his handle's are much better than you are giving him credit for

- He shows that he plays quite a bit in iso.

- His one-dribble shoot game is darn near un-guardable

 

You are also lying about the "double to trips to the free throw line", you rounded up Harden's and rounded down for Hairston's. Not to mention Harden gets more calls than anyone in the league so that is poor statistic to use.

 

Finally, Harden's game has evolved and during his tenure with the Thunder 45% of his shots were three points shots (last year 50% of Hairston's shots were three point shots, not a huge difference).

 

[MedellinHeel]

Ive watched / fapped to those videos 1000 times. 

 

I dont see much if any handles in those vids. 95% of his drives come off jabs, ball fakes, and hard dribbles. Not sure he does one proper slick crossover & behind the back in the entire vid. (will watch again to see exactly). 

 

What I see when I watch those vids 

 

Pros:

Shooter / Range

Good one dribble pull up

Tough

Good finisher

Good use of hesitation and getting the angle

 

Cons: 

Average handle

Not explosive

Not diverse in his iso game

 

I just cant use the Harden comp when he is such a beast off the dribble (ball on a string/elite crossover) and at attacking the rim. Would be akin to someone comparing a player to Steph Curry without the unconscious jumper. It is his signature skill / staple. 

 

Edit* Just watched the Viper game in close detail. Not one single display of slick/advanced handles seen. All drives came off the hard dribble, hesitation, and jab step. 

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Ive watched / fapped to those videos 1000 times. 

 

I dont see much if any handles in those vids. 95% of his drives come off jabs, ball fakes, and hard dribbles. Not sure he does one proper slick crossover & behind the back in the entire vid. (will watch again to see exactly). 

 

What I see when I watch those vids 

 

Pros:

Shooter / Range

Good one dribble pull up

Tough

Good finisher

Deceptive quickness

 

Cons: 

Average handle

Not explosive

Not diverse in his iso game

 

I just cant use the Harden comp when he is such a beast off the dribble (ball on a string / elite crossover) and at attacking the rim. Would be akin to someone comparing a player to Steph Curry without the unconscious jumper. It is his signature skill / staple. 

 

Like I said, Harden's game evolved. He hasn't always played the way he does in Houston and if P.J. models his game after Harden (which there are indeed some similarities) he will eventually put together a full repertoire that rivals Harden's.

 

Watch this clip of Harden in college... he's come a long way. P.J.'s game is a mix between Harden's college and pro game (I apologize for the horrible music).

 

[Rise of The Hive]

Just stay out of jail and make your shots and you are fine with me PJ.

[MedellinHeel]

Like I said, Harden's game evolved. He hasn't always played the way he does in Houston and if P.J. models his game after Harden (which there are indeed some similarities) he will eventually put together a full repertoire that rivals Harden's.

 

Watch this clip of Harden in college... he's come a long way. P.J.'s game is a mix between Harden's college and pro game (I apologize for the horrible music).

 

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Now watch these highlights...

 

 

If he can add the eurostep and work on his handles he's there.

 

Finally, Hairston can't be compared to Harden because he doesn't have the elite handles but Hairston can be compared to Curry even though Curry's average from three point land is a full 7% better than Hairston's?

 

Essentially, you can't compare Hariston to Harden because on his drives he doesn't do a proper behind the back move on a drive but you can compare Hairston to Curry even though Hairston isn't an elite three point shooter

 

That seems like you are picking and choosing.

[thatlookseasy]

Dont really see Harden in the way Hairston attacks off the dribble, Harden is a pretty unique player in that he never seems like hes in a hurry, always using hesitations and fakes along with his great vision to distribute (which he has had since college).  Hairston likes to attack the basket aggressively and doesnt really look to find teammates.  Its not a bad thing, thats just not the kinds of player Hairston is, which is why he doesnt run pick and rolls and start the offence nearly as much as a guy like Harden.

 

As for comparisons to Hairston, he reminds me a bit of Wes Matthews with his ability as a spot up shooter first and foremost with the skills to attack the basket off of that.  His size is pretty unique for a guy with his speed and skillset, which is why I think he can come in and make a difference from day 1.  Hes never going to be a guy who can create the offense himself, but he could be a great role player with the ability to cause havoc once the defense starts moving.