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NFL Experts Analysts and Writers that are going to hurt their credibility this year


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This statement is impossible isnt it?

 

 

and I dont care about Adam Schein, thats why I mentioned his name. Shrug, Its not like I have an Adam Schein dart board. Arent you being presumptuous here?

 

No.

 

The overwhelming majority of them are bad at predicting games, and seasons for a multiplicity of different reasons (most, it's too late for me to get into). Those are just the facts.

 

This has been proven empirically, generally, and semi-scientifically. So Top Dawg was right as I said earlier.

 

You really think that most of these guys (who you know don't really follow teams outside of a few, if any) know enough about 32 teams to accurately pick games, records and player seasons?....Come on now. Lol' Easier said than done.

 

The trick is; don't spread yourself to thin. However, that's almost impossible sometimes, which is why we get so many bad predictions across the board.

 

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

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This statement is impossible isnt it?

 

 

in statistical analysis yes. however, if "average" is defined using one's own definition of average. if i believe "average" sports reporting to entail greater effort/intelligence than ive seen from anyone in the media, then to me, all sports writers are below average.

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No.

 

The overwhelming majority of them are bad at predicting games, and seasons for a multiplicity of different reasons (most, it's too late for me to get into). Those are just the facts.

 

This has been proven empirically, generally, and semi-scientifically. So Top Dawg was right as I said earlier.

 

You really think that most of these guys (who you know don't really follow teams outside of a few, if any) know enough about 32 teams to accurately pick games, records and player seasons?....Come on now. Lol' Easier said than done.

 

The trick is; don't spread yourself to thin. However, that's almost impossible sometimes, which is why we get so many bad predictions across the board.

 

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

 

You say that as if its some secret that trying to cover too much is a problem. Thats why some doctors are Neurologists and others are Pathologists and so and so forth. Here's the thing though, the NFL is just one field. I disagree that its too much to ask for a guy to follow one professional sport. All of the soccer media seems to know clearly which teams are favorites dont they?

 

Now back to your first statement responding with "No". What you said is mathematically impossible. There is no computational way youre going to explain to me how "everyone" is below average is there?

 

with all due respect. . Im surprised you didnt know that.

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in statistical analysis yes. however, if "average" is defined using one's own definition of average. if i believe "average" sports reporting to entail greater effort/intelligence than ive seen from anyone in the media, then to me, all sports writers are below average.

 

Thats fine but this thread didnt ask for you or anyone else's specific perception in that respect. If had said "Per ViaVeritasVita which of these guys is the most disappointing." then you might have a point. The perception of below average, mathematically, is a collective one.

 

Im not sure why youre trying to justify an incorrect statement like that. Just say it a different way and youll be fine.

 

The majority of us think that a "below average" definitely exists.

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You say that as if its some secret that trying to cover too much is a problem. Thats why some doctors are Neurologists and others are Pathologists and so and so forth. Here's the thing though, the NFL is just one field. I disagree that its too much to ask for a guy to follow one professional sport. All of the soccer media seems to know clearly which teams are favorites dont they?

 

Now back to your first statement responding with "No". What you said is mathematically impossible. There is no computational way youre going to explain to me how "everyone" is below average is there?

 

with all due respect. . Im surprised you didnt know that.

 

"Everyone" was a euphemism/generalization. You know that.

 

The point is/was: Most of these guys are bad at predictions, so why bother starting a thread documenting all the bad predictions. As I said previously, it would last for days, take up multiple pages.

 

We just like to go after the guys who are the biggest ignoramuses pertaining to the Panthers. You know; the ones that really stick their necks out to knock the Panthers or it's players (for no reason), and are totally wrong, while showing they know absolutely nothing about what they're talking about.

 

To be honest. Sports commentary is not in the actual prediction. Cause you're going to be wrong most times. It's more in the story, background, logic, reasons, experiences, analogies and knowledge that the commentator or analyst uses. That's what we enjoy.

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"Everyone" was a euphemism/generalization. You know that.

 

The point is/was: Most of these guys are bad at predictions, so why bother starting a thread documenting all the bad predictions. As I said previously, it would last for days, take up multiple pages.

 

We just like to go after the guys who are the biggest ignoramuses pertaining to the Panthers. You know; the ones that really stick their necks out to knock the Panthers or it's players (for no reason), and are totally wrong, while showing they know absolutely nothing about what they're talking about.

 

To be honest. Sports commentary is not in the actual prediction. Cause you're going to be wrong most times. It's more in the story, background, logic, reasons, experiences, analogies and knowledge that the commentator or analyst uses. That's what we enjoy.

 

I gave you examples of above average sources, you may have missed that.

 

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Any of us can make 10 predictions about the next season and a handful will be way off. And when you are trying to predict the two teams that will make the superbowl you have around a 1/1000 chance of getting the two teams exactly right given the parity in the league.

 

 

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That's these guys' jobs.  No one is going to be 100% right. It's impossible.  Their credibility is not going to be hurt due to inaccurate prognostications. It's par for the course.  Their credibility gets hurt when they do bad reporting.

 

Remember Nawrocki's scathing scouting reports of Newton that turned out to look pretty bad? That makes an analyst lose credibility. All that fake smile business galls me to this day.

 

 

 

this guy just called out Nawrocki.  Glad to see one guy having Cam's back.

 

http://q.usatoday.com/2014/06/27/cam-newton-doesnt-have-to-prove-his-smile/

 

 

Cam Newton isn’t the fresh-out-of-Auburn kid with the million dollar smile any more. He’s now an experienced player who wants to be a leader to the high school kids he works with during camps in North Carolina.
 
He talked about how he conducts himself around high schoolers to the Charlotte Observer. Newton put a heavy emphasis on being accessible to the high schoolers who are modeling their game after his.
 
“They’re looking to see why I do it,” Newton said. “‘Why does he keep wearing a smile? Is it a fake smile? Is it something that’s genuine?’ For me to be around these kids, it puts it all into perspective for me.”
 
Back when Newton was not yet an NFL player, he was accused of having a “fake smile” by draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki. According to Nawrocki, this was a sign he was disingenuous and fake. This comment bothered Newton at the time, and considering he brought up the wording now, appears to still bother him.
 
Newton’s smile — whether it’s genuine or not — is not the point. He doesn’t have to smile to prove himself any more. He’s done it with his play.
 
Heading into his fourth season as the Panthers’ quarterback, Newton has become the player the Panthers envisioned when he was drafted. He led a turnaround that saw the Panthers go from a losing start to a won division in 2013. He earned a fifth-year option on his contract. He’s asking for more ownership on the offense.
 
No, this isn’t a guy who needs to worry about what people think of his smile any more.
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Thats fine but this thread didnt ask for you or anyone else's specific perception in that respect. If had said "Per ViaVeritasVita which of these guys is the most disappointing." then you might have a point. The perception of below average, mathematically, is a collective one.

 

Im not sure why youre trying to justify an incorrect statement like that. Just say it a different way and youll be fine.

 

The majority of us think that a "below average" definitely exists.

 

you assume i dont think there is such thing as below average. but my bad if i offended you. 

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you assume i dont think there is such thing as below average. but my bad if i offended you. 

 

what?

 

 

edit: ohhh I get it, you dont want to just say "I was wrong" so you want to make it sound like you offended me so you can back out of the thread. Wow youre wierd man. No offense taken though, hehe

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