Hornets willing to part with #9 for Afflalo

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

How the hell are you going to compare MKG to Lillard and Drummond??? Both guys came out highly touted. But, one from a small school and the other was considered raw. George is a better comparison but was a hell of a steal. No one knew who the hell George was.

I never said I didn't want to upgrade the SG position. That's why I want to trade the no9 for Afflalo while I would prefer Lance.

Plus, you don't spend a no4 pick just one year ago on a PF (Zeller) and then go spend huge money on Gasol even though I would not mind it. I would rather just draft Aderian Payne at 24.

MKG was highly touted ... he was considered the most complete player in the draft. No one expected his jump shot to BECOME, yes BECOME... as broken as it did. Go back and watch MKG's jump shot in college, the hitch and the slow release wasn't nearly as noticeable in his shooting motion as it is now. Once he got to the NBA, his offensive game regressed. MKG lost all of his confidence and his consistency when he got to the NBA and he's finally starting to get it back and you warn to bench him? Not smart

As for Zeller, he is clearly not ready to play. His body and strength aren't where they need to be to succeed as a power forward in this league. Until he fills out he needs to continue his role as a solid bench player.

Finally I never said Deng couldn't play defense I actually said that his limited offensive skill isn't worth $10 mil. His premiere game is weak and he makes his living driving to the rim. If MKG gains confidence then he could easily become just as good as Deng next season.

[carolina-chuck]

MKG was highly touted ... he was considered the most complete player in the draft. No one expected his jump shot to BECOME, yes BECOME... as broken as it did. Go back and watch MKG's jump shot in college, the hitch and the slow release wasn't nearly as noticeable in his shooting motion as it is now. Once he got to the NBA, his offensive game regressed. MKG lost all of his confidence and his consistency when he got to the NBA and he's finally starting to get it back and you warn to bench him? Not smart

As for Zeller, he is clearly not ready to play. His body and strength aren't where they need to be to succeed as a power forward in this league. Until he fills out he needs to continue his role as a solid bench player.

Finally I never said Deng couldn't play defense I actually said that his limited offensive skill isn't worth $10 mil. His premiere game is weak and he makes his living driving to the rim. If MKG gains confidence then he could easily become just as good as Deng next season.

MKG was who I wanted. You know that. We all knew he needed work on his shooting, but we also didnt know his form was that bad. However, I thought he would be an impact getting to the rim which isn't happening.

But, look at what you're doing. Youre saying that MKG needs to play in order to develop. Now, you're going against your words by saying Zeller is not ready and we should go after a PF. Shouldn't Zeller be seeing huge minutes by what you're saying???? Exaclty.

I would say that both guys need to be on the bench right now. Who cares how high they were drafted (I know I said Zeller was drafted no4). But, you could make a case that Zeller is learning from Al while MKG is learning from who? No one.

[MCC]

Have we shown much interest in Gary Harris? I would rather have him at 9 then trade the pick for AA.

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[SuperJTheGreat]

Kawhi Leonard didn't grow into the player he became by coming off the bench in favor of Ginobli.

Obviously he was more polished offensively upon entering the league than MKG but the player you saw in the finals didn't develop by sitting on the bench.

Kawhi  has always been the man. He was just to humble to step up because all of the future HOF around. Could have easily won ROTY imo.

[SuperJTheGreat]

Have we shown much interest in Gary Harris? I would rather have him at 9 then trade the pick for AA.

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I would rather trade the pick than draft DOUG

[MCC]

I try to see the good in players and look at what they CAN do rather than can't. All players have limitations, but if you can be elite at something then there is always a spot for you to make an impact.

McDermott will be an elite shooter from the moment he steps on the court. We need shooting and he'll be fine offensively. I'm just worried about his defense.

I'd rather draft Gary Harris because he's a very underrated two-way player and I think he'll be an all-star.

But ultimately I can probably get behind whoever we draft unless it's Aaron Gordon.

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[carolina-chuck]

Have we shown much interest in Gary Harris? I would rather have him at 9 then trade the pick for AA.

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Harris (long term) > Afflalo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McD

[MadHatter]

His jump shot is not even close to being the only part of the game that needs work. If you think it is... then God help you.

A huge issue with MKG is being able to defend without fouling, that is an aspect of the game that can only be learned through play.

Confidence and consistency are a few more issues that he needs to work on and once again the best place to solve those two issues is through playing.

His jump shot is exponentially the worst part of his game. He is a complete offensive liability when on the floor.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

His jump shot is exponentially the worst part of his game. He is a complete offensive liability when on the floor.

And when he's not on the floor our team as a whole is a defensive liability.

Go back and watch the second game of the playoffs against Miami. That is what a confident Kidd-Gilchrist looks like. He's not going to develop that confidence in practice.

[emhoward]

From another board. Here's what I would do.

Trade #9 #24 And Henderson for Affalo and #12

At #12 take LaVine, Staukus, or McBuckets, whichever is left after #10 and #11. You can throw Harris or Young in there if you want but I don't like them.

This gives us help now with Affalo, a shooter with deep range, and it gives a young prospect to groom for the future.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

MKG was who I wanted. You know that. We all knew he needed work on his shooting, but we also didnt know his form was that bad. However, I thought he would be an impact getting to the rim which isn't happening.

But, look at what you're doing. Youre saying that MKG needs to play in order to develop. Now, you're going against your words by saying Zeller is not ready and we should go after a PF. Shouldn't Zeller be seeing huge minutes by what you're saying???? Exaclty.

I would say that both guys need to be on the bench right now. Who cares how high they were drafted (I know I said Zeller was drafted no4). But, you could make a case that Zeller is learning from Al while MKG is learning from who? No one.

MKG needs to play to develop because he's a fragile guy. Have you heard him in interviews? He lacks a lot of confidence and confidence is built in games, not in practice.

Not to mention, MKG still brings imports aspects to the game (defense, hustle, athleticism, can get to the rim) that Zeller currently does not being to the game right now. Oh and one is in his third year and the other is in his second year. If you're bringing the second overall pick off the bench in his third year you are accepting the fact that he is a bust.... I'm not ready to do that.

[PantherBrew]

From another board. Here's what I would do.

Trade #9 #24 And Henderson for Affalo and #12

At #12 take LaVine, Staukus, or McBuckets, whichever is left after #10 and #11. You can throw Harris or Young in there if you want but I don't like them.

This gives us help now with Affalo, a shooter with deep range, and it gives a young prospect to groom for the future.

 

 

I would def do this.  I just don't think the Magic would.  

 

It sounds more like they are thinking #9 and #24 for Affalo alone.  Which I wouldn't do either.  

[emhoward]

I would def do this. I just don't think the Magic would.

It sounds more like they are thinking #9 and #24 for Affalo alone. Which I wouldn't do either.

Yeah, the more I think about it the more I doubt that Orlando would go for this, but it def be great if they did.

[Guest]

I would def do this. I just don't think the Magic would.

It sounds more like they are thinking #9 and #24 for Affalo alone. Which I wouldn't do either.

The Magic could do the deal. It would give them three picks to add talent to their roster. At #4 they could go for Embiid or Vonleh if Parker/Wiggins/Exum are off the board. The #9 pick could let them draft a PG like Elfrid Payton. And then they could use the #24 to add some firepower for the bench like TJ Warren. Then Henderson gives them a good back up SG/sixth man.

Payton (#9) / Nelson

Oladipo / Henderson

Harkless / Warren (#24)

Vonleh (#4) or Vucevic / Harris

Vucevic or Embiid (#4) / O'Quinn

It would give them a talented line up with two veterans to help from the bench. It would also give them the chance to package the #4 and #9 to move up to the first selection if they really want Wiggins or Parker. Then they can add a role player with #24.